Greetings to all, My Dad just left a job of 25+ years as a manager/secretary/treasurer of a private, independent oil/gas drilling contracting company. He's looking for a DL MBA that would specialize (best case scenario) in "management," especially if it had anything to do with petroleum. Talking to him about it, he holds high the priorities of time and reputation, not necessarily cost (even though that's always a factor). So he would like to finish in 1-1.5 years. I also recall that someone has stated in another recent post that AACSB accreditation would be necessary if he wanted to teach here in CA. This is over my head. I'm an english/humanities/religion student. Any suggestions would be helpful as he starts his research. I have told him about Touro's internet library (Bako. has only two, moderately large libraries), and CSUDH, close in proximity. CSUDH would require a test to get in, though. that's all I know! Thank you, Chris
AACSB accreditation is not required to teach at the university level, it's just required by some business schools for their business faculty positions. I think your idea of Touro would be great to consider for your dad. It certainly meets the requirements you specified above. He can complete a general management MBA in just under 1 and 1/2 years without having to take the GMAT. Not having an on-campus residency requirement and no textbooks to buy makes taking classes at Touro nice too. Also nice is the fact that Touro has begun pursuing AACSB accreditation, in addition to RA and IACBE accreditation. Good luck!
Although this may not be entirely on point, the University of Dundee in Scotland (http://www.dundee.ac.uk/cepmlp/main/html/mba.htm) offers a well-regarded MBA in Oil and Gas Management. It is only part distance learning, however, since some specialty modules apparently require campus attendance. I am told by a couple of friends who work in the oil industry that this University is very well regarded in the field, and provides much technical support and innovation for the North Sea oil fields. The business school at Kansas University also offers a MBA degree in Petroleum Management, but it seems geared towards US Navy Supply Corps officers, and I cannot see that it is distance learning. The website notes that the curriculum is being revamped. Regards, Michael Lloyd Mill Creek, Washington USA
OK, I might have a differing opinion. I live in the Sacramento area, and have spoken with the Dean's from Sacramento State University and UC Davis. They will NOT consider a canidate from a non-AACSB accredited school for a full time position as a professor. They do not even consider their applications. They always have positions open (3 at Sac State right now), but hold their Professors to the same standards as their school, which is AACSB. Unfortuntaely they do not offer PhD degrees. They do offer part time on a class by class basis to people holding a Master's from an AACSB school ONLY. Maybe this isn't the standard for the rest of the state, but is what I was told. For the MBA, I am going to the University of Tulsa semi-DL program. I travel to Tulsa fro finals each semester, and plan to complete in 2 years. Florida State has a similar program. You can go to www.usnews.com and see the rankings of the DL MBA programs that they have conducted research on. I think there is about 20 programs with AACSB accreditation currently out there, they also have the regional schools. My employer will ONLY reimburse for schools with AACSB accreditation, and do not recognize RA schools, which I think is silly, since he teaches at an RA school at night, but they hold the pocketbook. I am considering TUI, so don't think I don't appreciate the Regional accreditation they have, but will not be able to teach full time at state and UC schools, which is my goal, but doesn't look like I have an option in this area.
this makes a lot of sense thanks kristie: CA is snooty. that's the bottom line. so one just has to get ready for that snootiness, and live with it. i'll look on your list. Chris
Just to clarify, AACSB accreditation is a professional accreditation. The schools with AACSB accreditation are also RA. I do not know of any exceptions. RA pertains to the institution as a whole. Specific departments or other relevant academic components of the institution pursue additional accreditation such as AACSB for the business school, or ABA for the law school, or ABET for engineering, etc. John
I'm curious why you chose the Tulsa program rather than one of the AACSB MBA programs that are entirely DL. Is there something in particular that made that program stand out for you?
When I started last year, I conducted a search on the Internet (didn't know about this site!!) I narrowed to three Drexel, Florida, and Tulsa. Between the three, I chose Tulsa. I had a maximum of $18,000 for tuition, two year program, quality needed to be high, and high personal attention (only 25 admited per class). I also did not want to go to a school that it was their first year of DL (TU's second class) Tulsa has a great school reputation, this year they have 1 of every 11 freshmen are national merit scholars, as well as I wanted to experience the private school experience. Many others have been added in the past year, but I did not research things well. Also, when I decided to apply, several of the programs deadlines had past, and the Dean of the Tulsa Program I was able to get personal acceptance, contigent on all of my transripts, etc. came in later. Tulsa University is struggling with admissions, and has postponed their next round of students to an extended 3 year program. Of the 25 originals, 13 are left. With all of the lessons learned, I am going to be picky about the PhD I go to. I was thinking TUI sounds very promising, but the jury is still out until Jan. when I make final decisions.
I'm not much of a business guy either but I know that UMass-Amherst has an MBA program that can be taken 100% online and that it's got that AAAXYZ certification thing and the cost is the same for in-state and out-of-state students. Good luck to all. Jack
Re: Re: MBA for Dad University of Baltimore also has an online MBA that is AACSB accredited. http://www.ubonline.edu/webmbahome.nsf John
Some questions/comments: How old is this guy? I'd guess that he's in his fifties. What does *he* want to do? The whole thread has assumed teaching, but does that reflect his agenda or Degreeinfo's? If he is thinking about teaching, what kind? Is he really considering a new career as a full-time professor in a research-oriented department at his age, or is he thinking more in terms of teaching part-time? If he has goals besides teaching, what are they? Business isn't my field. But I will say that I'm skeptical that a degree from an AACSB department is absolutely necessary, even for teaching. I'm sure some departments strongly prefer that among their young full-time tenure-track new hires, particularly those for whom a degree is their main selling point. But a guy in his fifties with 25+ years experience in the industry seeking a part-time position teaching classes relevant to all that experience? I can't imagine very many California schools turning down Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, despite their having (to my knowledge) no AACSB MBA. Nevertheless, if this is a concern then seek an AACSB program. That's not my point. I'm just a little skeptical about uncritically accepting the assertion that an AACSB degree is absolutely necessary in order to teach in California.
I couldn't agree with you more. I took a moment to look at the current faculty job openings at California universities for business professors at the Chronical of Higher Education's site. I didn't look at every job opening, just the four or so University of California (Berkley, LA, Riverside, etc.) business school job openings for professors. Not one of them mentioned AACSB accreditation, let alone as a requirement. I know some business schools are looking it for their full-time, junior faculty; but it's certainly not a requirement to teach in CA.
Thanks guys I appreciate the input here. Basically, I'm not opposed to the AACSB, just as long as its not too much extra work. I agree that he could probably get a job without it, but i'm not certain that he could. This man does have tons of connections, but they aren't in the education world because he has been in industry all his life. So I would be concerned that he has an adequate credential for whatever he wants to do. in this case, it seems best to find something that is AACSB that isn't propped up with lots of reputation (and lots of extra work or expense for that reason). As you both have pretty much said, he has tons of experience. This may be the fatal flaw in my contention that AACSB would be best. So far, I see AACSB as basically requiring the same initial entrance exam and may require some research on the part of the student. Basically, is that the only diff??? Other than that, I don't see AACSB schools requiring much more (than the non-AACSB) than a half-a-year of work, generally. Univ. of Baltimore, MD (posted above). Apparently no prereq's, 48 credits, my guess is about 2 years of work, $500 something/credit. This one may be a little "extra work" for the reputation. I'm partial so far to the Univ. of Texas--El Paso. They have 10 courses, completely online, and apparently have some math prereq's only (I'm just starting to look into it, not totally sure), approx. $350/credit. I appreciate the healthy skepticism on the AACSB. I'm not totally convinced that the non-AACSB would be the best route yet, though. Especially if all it takes is some careful shopping for the better degree. Chris
Maybe I have misspoken for =all= CSU and UC schools, but when I spoke with CSUS's dean, he said their requirements were standard for the system: Here is the link to CSUS website for a position (one of many) http://www.csus.edu/fas/OB-Org%20Co...nnouncement.htm as you can see: "QUALIFICATIONS: Applicants must hold a doctoral degree in Business Administration or related field from a school accredited by AACSB International – The Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business". Again, this is only for full time, part time can have excpetions, like industry experience, etc. I would just hate to see anyone go through an entire program, and find it doesn't meet their needs. Sorry for all the confusion, may be others are not similar to this.
