Touro Vs NCU

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  1. Han

    Han New Member

    Can the guru;s of the board give me the pros and cons of NCU vs Touro???? Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. Tom

    Tom New Member

    Touro would be your best choice, since they are RA. It is my understanding that NCU is not fully RA yet.
     
  3. Eli

    Eli New Member

    I do not know much about NCU but sure enough can recommend Touro. BTW, Touro University International announced yesterday its first Ph.D. graduate in Business Administration ... many to follow I hope :)

    So far, Touro's branch campus (establish 1998) in California had an excellent track record (significant student body growth, continuously upgrading their technology, shifting to a much larger premises, faculty no. and admin. staff increasing steadily, and most importantly... seriously seeking AACSB accreditation). All signs of a healthy and well adjusted academic institution to me.

    Eli
    ABD, Touro University International
     
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  4. Steve King

    Steve King Member

    I think it's important to know which program and degree level you're interested in. While Tom is quite right, Touro is RA; there might be other factors to consider depending on your specific requirements.

    For example, if you are comparing MBA programs, the fact that Touro is RA is enough to recommend Touro over Northcentral. If you are interested in psychology programs then Northcentral is your only option (of the two). If you cannot logon to the Internet at a specific time once a week then Touro's PhD programs might not be for you, since some of their classes require it. So, what are you interested in studying?
     
  5. Han

    Han New Member

    My interest is a PhD in Business.

    I spoke with Touro and as mentioned above, they have graduated their first class, which is now making them a canidate for the AACSB national accreditation. Since I would like to teach, I think I will go the Touro route.

    I haven't heard anything bad yet about their program.

    Thanks to everyone.
     
  6. manjuap

    manjuap New Member

    Have they already applied for AACSB?
     
  7. Han

    Han New Member

    From my understading yes, and they are under "initial review". One of the major hurtles was to have a graduating class, which they could only wait for, not fix or improve anything.

    I was told by their rep. that they expect it in 1-3 years from the graduating class. The graduating class makes them active in the initial screening, and they say they are confident that they will receive it, but the timing they were not sure of.
     
  8. Scorpio198

    Scorpio198 New Member

    What about the difference and thoughts about Touro vs. Argosy. I am kinda nervous about Touro even though I like there program setup. I felt maybe Argosy's DBA program would be better because you do some type of short residential work. I also am an instructor and want to achieve my terminal degree to enhance my position opportunity. Can you give me your thoughts.

    Ed

    MBA- Johnson & Wales University
     
  9. Han

    Han New Member

    I don't know anything about Argosy, maybe we can throw this one out to anyone who has knowledge on this program.
     
  10. Scorpio198

    Scorpio198 New Member

    Decision

    Kristie:

    Have you made your decision on schools? I myself have been debating wheter Argosy or Touro. I was somwhat skeptical about Touro about prestige and acceptance in the academic world. I am a college instructor and want to move up with a terminal degree.

    Thanks

    Ed
     
  11. Han

    Han New Member

    I haven't made a firm decision, I don't complete my Masters until next semester.

    Touro seems to be RA accredited and going for national accreditation, so why would it not be accepted?

    I also don't know anything about tham
     
  12. Ike

    Ike New Member

    Kristie7:
    Touro is certainly RA but if you are choosing Touro because you think that Touro will secure AACSB accreditation within the next five years or so, you may have to reassess your options because it may not happen. To apply for AACSB accreditation is one thing and to actually secure the accreditation is a different matter. AACSB has three classes of membership and they are (a) accredited institutions, (b) candidate institutions, and (c) member institutions. Only about 350 schools hold AACSB accreditation worldwide, another 87 are candidate institutions, and the rest (about 400) are member institutions. Any RA school can apply to become a member but membership of AACSB means nothing. Nova Southeastern University and many other institutions that have been around for more than a century are AACSB members (That is, non-accredited members).
    A school has to be member first before it can apply for candidacy and Touro is not currently a registered member of AACSB. The period of candidacy could last for five years or more without success. On a final note, it is important to note that AACSB is strongly recommended for those that will like teach in colleges. Even schools that don't have AACSB accreditation consider only applicants from AACSB accredited schools for tenure. It is tough to make it into most colleges if your business degrees are not AACSB accredited. I am an adjunct professor (Comp Sc. Dept.) in a state school in NJ and the school's business school has just advertised for open tenure positions but they are looking for only applicants that graduated from AACSB accredited business schools. The irony is that the business school in the college (where I teach) does not hold AACSB accreditation.

    Ike Okonkwo
    ABD, NSU
     
  13. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Ike: is the 3-category list of schools available somewhere?
     
  14. Han

    Han New Member

    Ike: I agree with everything you have said, AACSB is the only route for teaching, and not only being a member, but actually accredited. I did not realize about the membership being needed before the accreditation, maybe I will rethink things. Thanks for the info.
     
  15. Ike

    Ike New Member

    Accredited schools, canditate schools, and non-accredited members can be found visiting AACSB home page at

    http://www.aacsb.edu

    1. To browse the list of accredited schools, use you mouse to highlight ""ACCREDITATION", click "Accredited Members" and then click "Schools Accredited in Business", and so on.
    2. To browse the list of candidate schools, highlight ""ACCREDITATION", click "Accredited Members" and then click "candidacy". You will find the list of candidate schools.
    3. To browse member schools (accredited and non-accredited), highlight "MEMBER SERVICES", click "Educational Institutions" and then click "All Member Schools -ordered by name"

    I hope that helps.
     
  16. Han

    Han New Member

    Unfortunately, the AACSB website is filled with typos and old information. I conducted several searches, and many schools came up with accreditation for Doctorate study, while the school didn't even HAVE a doctorate program.

    Be cautious when searching, and verify on the school's site.
     
  17. Ike

    Ike New Member

    Some of colleges are categorized incorrectly at AACSB web site. For instance, Clark Atlanta University was incorrectly categorized as Doctoral/Research Universities—Intensive. I think that Clark Atlanta does not have any doctoral program. Also, Mercer University in Atlanta was incorrectly classified as Master's Colleges and Universities I but Mercer has several doctoral programs.
    Despite the typos and classification errors, the fact is that AACSB is the gold standard in business school accreditation. In business school accreditation, it is AACSB or nothing. ACBSP and IACBE may appear as competing alternatives but the ugly and bitter truth is that there is no alternative to AACSB accreditation for now.
     
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  18. Han

    Han New Member

    Ike - You are exactly right. Do you happen to know of any PhD program that is offered via distance or limited residency.

    Drexel and ASU have a 9 month limited residency, but I wanted less.

    Case Western has an executive program, once a month for 4 years, but that would be crazy from CA to OH every 4 weeks.

    Any thoughta?
     
  19. Ike

    Ike New Member

    You may add cooporative Ph.D in Management from New Jersey Institute of Technology http://www.njit.edu/DL and cooporative Ph.D in Technology Management from Indiana State University http://web.indstate.edu/tech/academic/phd.htm
    The business school in these two universities have AACSB accreditation.
     
  20. Han

    Han New Member

    I spoke to NJIT about two weeks ago. They said that their Tehcnology department and the PhD is NOT aacsb accredited. Do you know anybody there that I could talk to , I just spoke to the admissions department.
     

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