Touro College now ranked third tier...

....by USnews.

Just went over their updated rankings at a bookstore.
No, I don't have the url since they no longer allow free access to their rankings. If interested, check the the complete version for free at a Barns n' Nobles.

-S

 

iginally posted by sulla [/i]
....by USnews.

Just went over their updated rankings at a bookstore.
No, I don't have the url since they no longer allow free access to their rankings. If interested, check the the complete version for free at a Barns n' Nobles.

-S [/QUOTE]


Thanks sulla for the update. Quite interesting!

Eli
ABD, Touro University International

 

In a South Indian Language

Sulla = A guy who lies.

 

dooohhhh!!

In English Manjuap = guy who is rude.

 

Sulla-

Where did you find the ranking. I went to US News.com but could not find Touro.

 

TC is listed under "Northern Universities - Master's: Tier 3".

 

Thanks I found it.

 

Re: dooohhhh!!

Agree... very rude and out of context...

Eli

 

I'm not really surprised, Touro College has always had a good reputation. However, Touro University International is a seperate entity, and I would be very surprised if TUI were ranked third-tier.


Bruce

 

Bruce your right-- I did not see TUI on the list at all.

 

What makes you say that? I never heard of a branch campus not benefiting from the reputation of its main campus. The president of TC attended TUI's graduation ceremony as a main speaker not to mention that Touro College is stated on all TUI degrees. As for the educational experience or rigor, I can assure you that it is the same on all campuses.

Eli
ABD, Touro University International

 

The main campus is listed not branch campuses. That does not mean branch campuses are excluded.

PS: Check Touro College's site (www.touro.edu) you will find TUI as a branch campus. Same applies to the Middle States site.


Eli
ABD, Touro University International

 

Very simply, because TUI hasn't been around long enough, and its doctoral offerings preclude it from being listed as a Master's university by US News (as Touro College is). I mentioned nothing of academic rigor or the quality of the school, though I think it would be impossible for you to say it's the same for all campuses unless you've attended all the campuses.

I actually like TUI, especially the deal they give to our Armed Forces, but to say it's a third-tier doctoral institution is a bit of a stretch.


Bruce

 

This seems like sort of an unfair shot at Touro University International. A university system, by definition, has colleges under it. Students may go to Harvard University but they graduate from Harvard's College of Public Health, or School of Medicine, or whatever.

In my case, my undergraduate degree was from George Mason University's College of Arts and Sciences. Every undergraduate at GMU had to graduate from one of GMU's colleges. That's just the way it works. No one graduates only from the university, but rather, from a college within the university. My diploma reads, "George Mason University" at the top and "College of Arts and Sciences" closer to the bottom. My point is, do you really think U.S. News and World Report is going to list my school as the "College of Arts and Sciences"? Of course not, they rank the schools as a whole. GMU, Touro, UVa, and Harvard are all ranked as a whole; as opposed to each college separately within the university.

Even when they are ranking specific programs against one another -- medical schools, law schools, etc. -- the university's name is often the only school name that appears on the list. George Washington University and the University of Virginia's medical schools are separate colleges under each of those universities. If they didn't list the university's name then all you'd see for medical schools would be "School of Medicine" listed fifty times under the column for the school's name.

Touro College and Touro University International are no different. TUI is a college under a university structure called Touro College. TC just never changed their name to Touro University. My TUI diploma says right on it, "Branch Campus of Touro College, New York." I think it is silly to think that TUI would ever be ranked as a separate entity because that's just not how schools/colleges/universities are listed.

Steve

 

Guys, guys, calm down! As I said before, I like TUI. I can understand defending your alma mater, but there is no attack to defend. What I said is very simple:

1) TUI offers enough doctoral programs to make it a doctoral institution under US News guidelines.

2) Touro College is listed by US News as a third-tier Master's institution.

3) If TUI is a doctoral institution, it can't possibly be included in the US News ranking of Touro College.

That's it!


Bruce

 

The US News rankings that you folks are discussing are for undergraduate education. Even the "doctoral" universities are ranked based on their undergraduate programs. (The adjective "doctoral" is used to describe the institution's overall mission, not the level of the education being assessed.)

US News does provide some ranking of graduate programs elsewhere, but not in the tables being discussed here.

In my view the "Tier 3 Regional Master's" ranking of Touro College has no bearing on the quality of TUI graduate programs.

 

Agreed but I'm confused........I thought that was the topic under discussion; Touro's =undergrad= ranking (i.e. USNWR's America's Best Colleges 2003).

 

Re: RA and Tier 1/2/3 explication.

Nothing more than USNWR's ranking system. You can read all about the methodology by clicking on the link below. I believe RA is the bare minimum for inclusion. Even some RA schools either don't appear or are not ranked.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/about/03rank.htm

 

Re: RA and Tier 1/2/3 explication.

Did a search on RA, but its under the minimum word length. Someone please tell me what it is. Thanks.