Advantage of Distant Learning Studies

ICIS

Advantage of Distant Learning Studies at ICIS:


1) Students can study with little conflict with their working conditions

2) Apart from low fees, a great deal of money can be saved by not traveling abroad and saving high living costs there

3) No cultural or family conflicts by staying in their native country

4) Enjoy a high quality teaching

5) Since our college is accredited by British Accreditation Council as well as many affiliation agreements, our certificates are acceptable in most universities that teach Islamic sciences.

Following a thorough study of the latest teaching methods, ICIS has adopted a new technique. This form can be described as a combination of Face to Face (traditional classroom) and conventional distance learning methods. In this approach, students attend video-taped lectures conducted by highly qualified and specialized lecturers. Furthermore, there are tutors at each classroom whose role is to answer questions and solve problems.



Students who have registered in the distance learning course, do not need to attend classes. Instead, they are provided with a complete set of audio-taped lectures as well as relevant books and teaching notes. In case these students have any question, they can direct them either to the Local Centers or London headquarters.



There are many local examination centers world-wide. Students should sit for their exams in either these centers or at ICIS headquarters in London.



A minimum number of 50 students is needed in order to secure a new local examination center in each area. A list of examination centers is available. Please refer to course structure for further information.

 

DEGREE MILL MILL MILL

 

Manjuap, its obvious that Raoufm sees this as a great place to study and the offerings are respectable, and with BAC acceptance..wow.

My question to Raoufm, can you qualify, based on your posting for the ICIS, if you are trying to tell everyone that you have found a good school offerings DL programs, and that when graduating from the ICIS that a person can get into further education in Islamic Studies at one of the more credible UK universities?

Please let us know more details why you chose to post this, I find it real interesting.

J.R(ic)

 

domain: islamiccolleges.com
status: production
origin-c: [email protected]#0
organization: Dr. Raouf Muayed
owner: na Dr. Raouf Muayed

 

If you click on their "kolieh site" link, you get this:

http://www.kolieh.com/ICIS/English.htm

Note the address at the bottom, 289 Cricklewood Broadway.

The 'International Colleges of Islamic Sciences' suddenly becomes 'International Islamic University, London' on this alternative page on the same site:

http://www.kolieh.com/

It transmogrifies into the 'International Technological University' here:

http://ituedu.ca/main.asp

Here's a job advertisement from a Queen's University Belfast website in which International Technological University is using the 289 Cricklewood Broadway street address and a kolieh.com e-mail address:

http://www.qub.ac.uk/co/GO0902.htm

The International Technological University tries to associate itself with some kind of major international initiative here:

http://www.itu1.org/

On this page still left on kolieh.com they assure prospective students:

Students who complete the requirements of the programme and satisfy the examiners will receive the European Master's Degree Certificate. This certificate will be signed by the local university in collaboration with International Technological University, UK and in some cases by Rectors of The Free University of Brussels, Belgium; and The University of Bologna, Italy. Thus, the European Master's Degree will enjoy international recognition.

http://www.kolieh.com/environment/FAQ.htm

Hummm...

Obviously I might be mistaken, but this thing definitely looks like a degree mill to me, and a particularly ugly one at that.

I'm not an attorney, but isn't the use of the word "university" and the right to grant degrees regulated by law in the UK?

 

Thanks guys. Raoufm as noted by you in your original posting, as you may have seen by the responses we all take an interest in members postings, especially those that look interesting or that look like a Diploma Mill.

I for one would glady welcome your response to see if we missed something on the wonderful ICIS?

J.R(ic)

 

Up another pops

To call an institution a University in the UK and to award degrees it requires a vote of the Privy Council (the Queen in council). As the members of the Privy Council for these purposes are Government Ministers and the award is a Royal Charter, it is most unlikely that this gentleman's outfit would qualify. As for a local (unnamed) University accrediting its degrees this is even more doubtful.

It may be sincere, but it is a scam.

 

Would Dr Muayed kindly set forth his credentials for superintending an institution of Islamic learning?

 

What a Bozzo! A guy trying to sell his diploma mill in a site that is not very keen about unaccredited degrees. An ismalic college selling MBAs as well, it looks to me like a wonderful institution. I wonder where Dr. Muayed got his degree from? hope not from his own Islamic College.

 

Regarding ITU

THE INTERNATIONAL TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITY- ITU

The International Technological University (ITU) was established in 1987 under a resolution of the Twenty-fourth Session of the General Conference of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural organization (UNESCO), Paris (24 C/DR.217 COM.III).

The following quotations from that resolution, submitted by The Netherlands, succinctly describe the purpose and role of the ITU:

" … to contribute to the program of the International Technological University (ITU) by giving intellectual and financial support through regular program, participation program, funds in trust, to ITU activities (elaboration of engineering and other training programs, production of teaching materials, including distance-learning packages, organization of training courses on basic engineering subjects, international accreditation, etc.), oriented to the reinforcement of national human technological potential of developing countries in accordance with modern standards of engineering education". (24 C/5, item (iii)). "

"The International Technological University (ITU) was created on the initiative of some eminent academics, the International Centre for Technical Research (ICTR) and UNESCO. Its purpose is to narrow the technology gap between developed and developing countries.

The ITU is to provide higher education in science, technology and management to suitably qualified students in developing countries. This institute will identify or develop and then make available to constituent colleges high quality learning materials and validate the teaching of these subjects." (24 C/DR.217, page 2). "

"The Director-General (of UNESCO) welcomes the proposal of the Netherlands concerning the International Technological University (ITU) whose main objective is the reinforcement of human technological potential of developing countries.

The setting up of the International Technological University (ITU) and the implementation of its teaching programs are in accordance with UNESCO's strategies for development of education in accordance with the socio-economic targets for the national development of Member States.

The Director-General recommends that a close liaison be established among UNESCO, national authorities and international organizations with a view to assuring appropriate co-ordination with the programs of the ITU.

The Director-General assures the sponsors of this resolution that intellectual support will be provided to ITU under the planned activities of the regular program…"

Source:

http://www.ituedu.ca/overview/about.asp

 

Anybody remember the Peru university brouhaha?

 

The collocation of endorsing (?) universities is more interesting for those omitted than those included, if the intent is to portray the British institution as possessing widespread acceptance among Arab or Muslim universities.

The articulation agreements remind me of TTS and Canterbury or Liverpool. The Algerian agreement is a permission for an Algerian school in Oran to enter into some sort of agreement with the British institution, but the nature and details of that agreement are omitted from the document. The British website presents this as official approval of itself by the Algerian government, an approval not necessarily conveyed by the document reproduced.

 

I am reading with interest what all have been saying
I am responsible for the site of the ICIS s a webmaster what credentials do I need??
a repley to what has been said is being compiled by ICIS and ITU authorities

 

domain: islamiccolleges.com
status: production
origin-c: [email protected]#0
organization: Dr. Raouf Muayed
owner: na Dr. Raouf Muayed


__________________
Bill Gossett



You seem to be more than the webmaster, the domain belongs to you plus you call your self a Dr.

Enrique, Sheila is you?

 

You seem to have special reason to to attack this site
I am a doctor and th Site belongs to me not the organization
I wish it was

 

Raouf, are you getting defensive against what is being posted by the members of the site?. Let me suggest to you that when you posted the link, you were inviting responses, if not then you should have posted..NO RESPONSES, NO ATTACKING THE SITE, NO ATTACKS ON MY QUALIFICATIONS, OR NASTY REMARKS..just simply thank Raouf for making the posting.

Did you really think by posting that the other members of the site would merely look and say nothing, especially when you have shown to all, that an Institution of learning, especially out of the UK, must be at least somewhat credible??

It was you in the first instant that simply addressed yourself as a poster, without (at that time) linking yourself to the ITU or the fact that you were the webmaster, the superintendent and a Doctor at that of what was it??.

So for all intents you were simply selling or promoting the programs at ICIS & ITU..is that not the fact?

The DL detectives on this site all work for the DL branch at the FBI or CIA, so please be careful before reporting the comments of the site for compilation to the authorities at ICIS & ITU, I'm sure they will respond with a qualifying statement about the credibility of ICIS that you originally posted?

After you have done so please tell us what you plan to do with the comments, since you see, if we have said something that is NOT TRUE, please explain further.

Until then, if you could please let everyone know about the ICIS institution and its stature within the UK colleges & University system..simply put where is your accreditation and do you have an NVQ rating or certificate for your programs? (forget the BAC endorsement, it doesn't count)

J.R(ic)

 

Dear John Roberts
Thank you for the advice.

 

International Technological University (ITU) was established in 1987 under a resolution of the Twenty-fourth Session of the General Conference of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural organization (UNESCO), Paris.



ITU is registered as a university with the Charity Commission for England and Wales (registration number 297943). The chairman of the board of trustees is Sir John Palmer who is a lawyer by profession and is well aware of legal situation in the UK.



ITU was the first university of its kind. It introduced new ways of teaching by utilizing the latest technologies available. We have produced the following courses in collaboration with some Western European universities in order to uplift the quality of teaching in the institution of the Eastern European.



- European Masters Degree in Mechanical Engineering at the Technical University of Gdansk, Poland.

- European Masters Degree in Eco-Integrated Mechanical Engineering, at the Technical University of Gdansk, Poland.

- European Masters Degree in Environmental Science and Technology at the Technical University of Budapest, Hungary.

- European Masters Degree in Energy Management and Mechanical Engineering at the Technical University of Cluj-Napoca, Romania.

- European Masters Degree in Environmental Monitoring, Control and Health at the University of Chemical Technology and Metallurgy, Sofia, Bulgaria.

- European Masters Degree in Environmental Protection and Sustainable Development at the University of Chemical Technology and Metallurgy, Sofia, Bulgaria.

- European Masters Degree in Environmental Management at Ankara University, Turkey.



The importance of the Degrees given in the above course is that it is a pan European one. They were signed by 5 – 7 rectors of the Western European universities. Moreover, all programmes were carried out under strict scrutiny of European Commissioners’ experts. As far as I know, this type of degree was not given before.



The other advantage of this university is to take the classroom to student’s home by recording the teaching of lecturers and saving them on CDs (Audio and Video) to be distributed to students. Student’s progress and hands on sessions are carried out through Internet. Thus, in my humble opinion, we were the first to introduce blended e-learning.



In 1989, after gaining experience in formation of ITU, we established International Colleges for Islamic Science (ICIS) with the Charity Commission for England and Wales (registration number 802651). We could not register the name “University” for it due to an act of Parliament issued in 1988. However, the quality of teaching in this college is also kept at university level.



Recently, we decided to combine activities of both institutions and are considering merging them legally too. According to an agreement signed with the Federation of Universities of the Islamic World (FUIW), the Degrees for MBA and other MSc courses will be issued by local universities and signed by FUIW and ICIS. Up to now, this programme is supported by 40 member universities. Moreover, our course are created by experienced teachers in the universities of the West and are approved by eminent moderators in the field.



S E Shahrestani

Senior Administrator, ICIS



PhD from Queen Mary College,

University of London 1987


The above was written by S E Shahrestani

 

This text seems to be copied word for word off the ITU website.

So what are you claiming here? That the ITU is a United Nations university? If it is, could you point us to some UN websites that mention the ITU *and* identify it as your London operation?

In fact, could you point us to *any* academic or professional websites that mention any of your institutions? A Google search turns up next to nothing for your ITU or your Islamic college/university, a fact that I find very suspicious in light of the claims you are making. Even credible non-accredited schools provide hundreds of hits.

Frankly, I don't know whether UNESCO really passed an ITU resolution, but I strongly suspect that if they did, your ITU isn't what UNESCO was referring to.

Then you might ask him to provide us an explanation of how registering as a charity in Britain constitutes establishment as a university and bestows degree granting powers.

If your are going to cut and paste your reply from others' words, try to do so accurately.

Could you provide us with any evidence that the Technical University of Gdansk has even heard of you, let alone collaborates with you?

And what in the world is a "European masters degree"?

These kind of claims have been repeatedly made in the past by individuals trying to create an institution that is somehow everywhere and nowhere, conveniently keeping it from falling under any single nation's education law. So, what legal jurisdiction has authority and oversight over what ITU is doing?

If this is an EU initiative or something, could you steer us to some reliable documentation explaining it, on a website (preferably official) that isn't your own?

But you do have an alternative webpage for it that calls it the 'International Islamic University, London', don't you?

Let me get this straight. You are the United Nations. Or UNESCO. Or the European Commission. Or something. So what are you doing setting up a small-time and perhaps illegal Islamic university in London? How is it that it shares the same address and e-mail as the ITU? Who, and what, is "we"??

Does UNESCO know this?

Sounds like you are backpedaling from your claims to offer degrees.

So, could you name the university that will actually be granting your students' degrees? And could you point us to some corroborating evidence of the truth of what you are saying?

 

Raouf, to further expand on what Bill said and asked in his posting above, I think I have finally figured the ITU/ICIS out.

http://www.kolieh.com/ICIS/English.htm

After spending almost ONE hour going through each page of the ICIS website, Bill was right in what he said about you simply cribbing your response from what is already on the ICIS web, and the fact that ICIS/ITU cant provide PROOF its of degree granting status.

(BTW in the old days the ITU was a short form for the International Telecommunications Union).

Another point on the ICIS web, when going to the link for Teachers, the faculty listing are all in the Middle East and if your offering European Degrees, thius doesn't make sense?

Final note on what I figured out.

1) The ICIS/ITU is strictly an agent for the schools claiming to offer the European Degrees (or maybe it isn't)

2) The ICIS/ITU has no authority to teach courses or grant any degrees even for the Masters, athough you say a masters program is offered through ICIS/ITU?

3) At 1500 pounds (PT), & 2500 pounds (FT) for a Masters program, I figured that this is really cheap and is probably your agency fee, and the poor student will have to, if registered with a European university pay extra fees to do all courses?

(where are the UK universities in your list that your dealing with that someone can get a UK Masters).

4) My guess is that for such a low course fee, you will probably either a) issue a FAKE Diploma from a European named university, that wont stand up anywhere if checked, b) simlpy pass the poor guy onto a named institution to fend for themselves?

5) The other interesting point was the examination centers around the world, with even the USA mentioned. How do you conduct exams if less than 50 students are ready to take them?

Prove me wrong on all of these points, and establish your teaching faculty list, graduate student list that can be verified, number of students currently on each course/program, a contact list for all of the universities that you have mentioned so that we may check and confirm the quality and validity of your school as being the agent/partner for these university Masters programs.

Please understand that any prospective student (with common- sence) would check you out with the questions 1-5, dont you
think..at least I would if I was trusting you with my pounds and especially you being in London, how do you think further academic institutions would accept graduates of ICIS/ITU onto their advanced programs?

Please respond again if I missed something.

J.R(ic)