I am desperately looking for a distance Doctoral program in Business. It has to be AACSB, and the only one I have found is limited residency Drexel (9 months), which is too long...... anybody have any suggestions?!?? I am in Sacramento, and there are no local AACSB Doctrate Business degrees offered in the area. Thanks, Kristie
Just curious.....why does it have to be AACSB? There are several DL Ph.D. and D.B.A. options, but none I know of are AACSB schools. Bruce
My employer will ONLY reimburse AACSB. I can take a leave, and work part time, and they will still reimburse.... too good of an offer to pass up. Also, I want to work at a California State University, I spoke with the Dean and he said the PhD MUST be from an AACSB school to get a full time position. I called the AACSB office and they do not have that information (which seems a bit strange to me that they do not know about the programs they accredit). They gave me a list of over 100 schools that offer a PhD that they have accredited, and I am going one by one, but having trouble finding one. Any help would be great!!
To my knowledge, there is no 100% DL Business PhD accredited by the AACSB. However, there are several DBAs offered from top universities like Glasgow and Heriot watt that are offered at distance that don't have AACSB accreditation but have an excellent reputation. You might ask to your employer if he would accept a foreign equivalent. I heard about Touro looking for AACSB accreditation, but I don't know how serious is this. You may ask about it to some of the students working on PhDs at this institution. Regards,
Alas, there are no such programs.... There probably never will be either. AACSB has high research expectations and also requires 50% of the credit hours of an accredited school be taught by full-time faculty. Touro and NSU have both talked about it - but the economics realities sink in pretty fast. It is interesting that AACSB does not accredit programs at the doctoral level. Nonetheless, a number of employers (particularly colleges) insist that a person pursuing a doctorate in business attend an AACSB school. Regards - Andy [ QUOTE]Originally posted by kristie7 I am desperately looking for a distance Doctoral program in Business. It has to be AACSB, and the only one I have found is limited residency Drexel (9 months), which is too long...... anybody have any suggestions?!?? I am in Sacramento, and there are no local AACSB Doctrate Business degrees offered in the area. Thanks, Kristie [/QUOTE]
Re: Re: Doctoral AACSB [/B][/QUOTE] It is interesting to see how the RA accreditation is becoming obsolete in the business area. It seems that some snobby business schools don't see with good eyes the new RA internet schools and look at AACSB accreditation as a way to filter them out. So what are the real chances of a graduate of a non AACSB but RA accredited business school to get a full time tenure professor job?. It looks to me that PhDs from Capella, Touro and Walden would have very limited amount of opportunities if this trend continues.
Thank you for the information on Tourou. I have been in contact with them, and they do plan to become AACSB accredited. They must first have a graduate in the program, which is a requirement. Will keep everyone posted. I agree that it seems that someone is getting a kickback from the AACSB people, they have captured the market (at least in CA) with all of the UC and State schools. There are a number of accreditation agencies out there that are not recognized. These schools need to get with the times.
You may want to give Case Western (AACSB Accredited) a try. Case Western has a D.L. Doctorate of Management program. Good Luck
Re: Re: Re: Doctoral AACSB I wouldn't say that RA is obsolete at all in business education. Quite the opposite, given the rise of DL programs that are RA, the non-RA schools would seem to be crowded out. AACSB is clearly a quality distinction. The best (at least according to ranking lists like USNews, Business Week, etc.) b-schools in the US are without exception AACSB schools. Overall, about 18% of US schools are AACSB. What stops the DL schools from being AACSB isn't the fact that they are DL. Duke and Indiana run DL programs (not to mention a host of others) that are high quality and DL. It is DL school's lack of full-time, research active faculty, not to mention their lack of admission standards (e.g. no GMAT, low GPA norms, etc.) that stop them. As for the prospects of a job with a non-AACSB doctorate - there are some real limitations. Top schools simply won't hire DL grads into tenure track positions. I've been fortunate to land a position at a smaller university, but I realize my limitations in the market place. Regards - Andy It is interesting to see how the RA accreditation is becoming obsolete in the business area. It seems that some snobby business schools don't see with good eyes the new RA internet schools and look at AACSB accreditation as a way to filter them out. So what are the real chances of a graduate of a non AACSB but RA accredited business school to get a full time tenure professor job?. It looks to me that PhDs from Capella, Touro and Walden would have very limited amount of opportunities if this trend continues. [/B][/QUOTE]
I have checked with Duke and they have said they do not offer a program via DL. Are you referring to a different department perhaps, not in Business?
Sorry for any confusion - my point about Duke (and Indiana) regarded their masters programs. There are several DL based AACSB accredited programs. At the doctoral level, the only DL programs are non-AACSB. The only programs that come close is Case Western (which requires folks to come to Cleveland for class). Regards - Andy
Just a thought, and I may be way off, but.......... Andy mentioned that AACSB does not accredit doctoral programs. Is your employer aware of this? The business world does not have a great track record understanding issues of accreditation. We've seen many examples of employers in the business world accept and pay employee's tuition for unaccredited and even totally fake degrees. Since AACSB doesn't accredit doctoral programs, then doctoral business programs at accredited schools would be covered by the regional accreditor. Taking another logical leap, the doctoral programs at Touro and those at Harvard enjoy the same accreditation, which is RA. Why wouldn't they reimburse you? Hey, the most your employer can do is say "no", right? Bruce
Even though it is absurd to ask for a PhD from a AACSB accredited school, this seems to be the rule for AACSB accredited schools looking for business professors. Take a look at the Chronicle and you will see that many schools have this requirement. An exception is in the field of Information Systems since some candidates can be graduates of computer science or Information systems departments that sometimes are not associated with business schools. I believe that if Touro becomes a candidate at least, you can have a strong point to get reimburse for your tuition.
Thanks to all that have posted. I have checked with all the schools. Case is resident only. It looks like Tourou will be graduating students this year, then it takes 1-3 years for the accreditation, but they feel pretty condifent they will get the accreditation, most of it is checking the boxes. I will be applying there, thanks to everyone!!
The Executive Doctor of Management (EDM) Program, offered by the Weatherhead School of Management at Case Western Reserve University only requires periodic weekend residencies (see here). Among the other requirements, however, are a Master’s degree, the capability to study approximately 30 hours a week, at least 15 years of work experience (minimum of 10 years in management), and $27,700 a year for tuition (current academic year, subject to change).
Is an EDM the same as a PhD?? Also, there are many references to RA, what is that. Sorry if that is a silly question, I am new to this forum.
Two good questions: 1. EDM is Case Western's label for a professionally oriented doctorate. They have a traditional PhD program that they don't want confused with their EDM. Some faculty I know have earned the EDM, but it is focused on folks in industry. 2. RA = Regionally accredited. This is done by one of 6 regional accreditors (e.g. North Central, Southern Association, etc.) Thanks - Andy
