California Coastal

Is this one of those degree mill operations? If anyone can help please let me know.

Thanks

 

You probably mean California Coast University. CCU is a non accredited California state approved institution. It has been legally authorized in California to grant degrees since 1974, so it is definately not an illegal diploma mill. As to the utility of CCU degrees, there are strong opinions on both sides of the table.

Tony

 

Do a search with CCU or California Coast and you will find a lot of information. CCU is considered one of the "better" unaccredited options available.

 

Degree mill, stay away, word is that the building management their in is asking them to move, it is in Santa Ana, CA. A local high schools wants to use the small building for some administration offices, school is a joint venture (OSHA) a performing arts program.

I'm told they want to rent a room in the old Masons building home of Tibbies Music Hall


FINE DINING! GREAT ENTERTAINMENT!

COMPLETE EVENING - A dining and entertainment experience all in one.

SHOW - A song and dance revue that will get your toes tappin' and fingers snappin'!

THE TIBBIE'S BAND - Our live band adds excitement and spontaneity to your evening.

FOOD - A delicious, sit-down, three course meal.

PRICE - TIBBIE'S is Southern California's best dinner theatre value!

UNIQUE SERVICE - Your servers are the entertainers in the show.

SPECIAL RATES AVAILABLE for groups of twenty (20) or more.

LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION - One mile south
of the Bower's Museum and Main Place Mall. Ten minutes south of Disneyland.

At the Santa Ana Performing Arts and Event Center
505 North Sycamore Street
Santa Ana, CA 92701

 

Re: Re: California Coastal

This is true. Unfortunately, I believe that the general public will paint the CCU with the same brush that they paint all unaccredited degrees, which means that it probably won't have much utility. I like the suggestion to do a search.

 

Re: Re: Re: California Coastal

I came across this site that has a good list of degree mills.

http://pachome1.pacific.net.sg/~chrisyeh/degmill1.htm


This site calls CCU the "NOT SO BAD BUT STILL UNACCREDITED", that I believe says it all.

 

What kind of degree are you looking for?

North

 

Couple of Argosy Professors have PHD's from California Coast University ?? !!!

 

Really? I just looked at Argosy's faculty listings on their web site. It only lists the highest degree earned and all were from regionally accredited schools. I did not see any CCU degrees listed. Where did you see this?

Also, I have to disagree with Mayes above. CCU certainly is not accredited, but it is not an illegal diploma mill either. It is located in Santa Ana, but on Main St. To my knowledge, CCU's programs have been primarily in business, psychology, human services, education and, recently, engineering. It has never offered any degree programs in performing arts.

Tony

Adjunct Faculty of Education
California State U., San Bernardino

 

CCU has been located on Main St. in Santa Ana for at least two decades. They've offered the same curriculum--including the Engineering degrees--since at least 1982.

 

I wonder why they let him teach there? You can argue that the DBA he holds wasn't required for the position he fills, but, wouldn't they atleast show his highest accredited degree instead of the CCU PHD?

Does argosy not have requirements for an accredited degree? Did he slip through the cracks?

Best Regards,
Bill

 

Its been discussed here

http://www.degreeinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6193

 

Issue?

Here is the thing ...

California Coast, SCUPS, Pacific Western and CPU are 100% legal, and Approved - within CA. If the school is in CA, it should be a moot point. Outside of CA, it may be more of an issue, and I concur, that within academia, there is considerably more concern around SL/SA approved degrees. But, if the school is CA, where is the issue???

 

Re: Issue?

There is no evidence to show that degrees from California-Approved schools enjoy wider acceptance with California employers than they do in other states. In academia, there is no accredited school in California--that I know of--that has a stated policy of accepting credits and/or degrees from California-Approved schools.

These schools lie on the very fringes of society in general, and academia in particular. It is not prudent to make sweepingly general statements regarding them without support.

 

What support do you have to baltently discredit CA Approved Schools, and their acceptability in CA, i.e.: CPU, PW, SCUPS, CCU, FTU, etc.?

 

I didn't "baltently discredit" (sic) any school in my post. I merely pointed out that it has been established clearly that credits and degrees from such schools have almost no academic value, and that there is no reason to believe that such schools are more accepted in California than in other states.

Why do you have to "baltently" (that is hard to type) make unsubstantiated claims about the efficacy of such schools and their credentials?

If you would knock it off, there would be a lot less of this. But I guess even losing an argument gets these schools talked about, and that is really your agenda, isn't it?

Sorry I was so "baltent." I'll try to be more "suttle" next time.

 

How has this been established? What criteria are you using to define academic value? What I am saying Rich, is that if a student walks-away with credible knowledge growth from one of these fully legal, state approved post secondary educational institutions, than value has been gained. I am attending PW. I am working on my first class, and I am finding it to be a tremendously valuable research course - I feel that I am gaining knowledge. PW is state approved in CA, therefore, if I resided in CA, where my degree is 100% legal, is my educational value, calibrated less than a RA Degree, and if so, then who is the determinant? The State? No, they have approved the school's business programs. It is you and the RA-only gang, which constantly seeks to discredit state licensed and state approved schools. Why do not you just then end the battle – and amend the constitution. Perhaps you can outlaw religion too.

 

I live in California, not Latvia, so I can't be accused of 'baltently' doing anything. But I will comment on CA-approved schools which are an interest of mine.

What should be a moot point? The academic standard of CA-approved degrees? I don't think so.

If your only goal is to "earn" a "100% legal degree", then I agree that any state-licensed program is fine.

If your goal is to get a good education, then if you insist on restricting yourself only to state-licensed degrees (why *do* you do that? You have never been willing to tell us), then you will have to pick and choose very carefully to find the occasional gems scattered among some pretty weak alternatives.

But if your goal is to *use* your degree among other people in order to certify your educational attainment, then you will need a degree that meets the standards that people expect.

There may be exceptions. One that I can see is when you intend to use a degree from a non-accredited school in a niche context in which everyone is already familiar with the school and with its reputation. But I'm a Californian (not a Latvian) and i'm here to tell you that not only are most Californians unfamiliar with the CA-approved schools, most Californians don't even know that they exist.

Another exception is if you use the degree in order to qualify for a licensing exam like the CA bar exam or the state psych boards.

And there are the cases where people simply don't care. My observation is that particularly in in the cases of advanced degrees, people normally do care. If they want an advanced degree, they are putting a premium on education, and they are probably going to be looking at it closely. Again an exception may exist if the employer already is familiar with the candidate, already considers him/her qualified, and is simply using the degree to fullfill an institutional requirement. But you need to be an insider for that to work. It almost certainly wouldn't work in a competitive situation.