Who has a good, accredited,cost effective DBA?

I'd like to further my studies in business and can't attend classes.

 

The good ones that I know are non-american:

DBA , University of Southern Queensland (Australia)
DBA , Henley College of Management (UK)
DBA , Charles Sturt (Australia)
DBA, Glasgow Business School (UK)

Glasgow is perhaps the best option in terms of prestige and content seconded by Henley. The Australian are not bad options but none of them are top-ten universities.

In the US you have:

DBA, Nova
DBA, Argosy
PhD, Touro
PhD, Walden
PhD, Capella

Nova would be my best option. Walden, Capella and Argosy are not bad, and Touro seems to be new in the game so we don't know how it will perform.

There is a hughe difference in terms of prestige between some of the foreign ones and the american ones. Thing that makes you wonder if you should go for a foreign degree instead, but some people seem to be quite happy with the american options.

The Australian schools might be not very prestigious either but you get them half price because the strong US dollar. If someone is living outside the US then an australian or UK degree would make more sense, but if one is an american resident then the foreign degree can be a bit difficult to explain.

 

Does Henley have an DL DBA programme? As far as I know, it has an DL DBA programme in Singapore.

 

The Henley DBA requires some residencies in the UK, but so Walden, Argosy and Capella (US residencies). Touro seems to be the only one that is 100% online. The residency in the australian ones can be negotiated. I'm a DBA student in Information Systems at USQ and I was informed that residency is not required but offered in case one needs it. Residencies at USQ are normally two weeks a year but not mandatory for some DL programs. For the price it is a very good option, I teach information technology and I haven't received any bad comment from my employers at college and university when they see it in my resume.

 

@RFValue: is residency generally required at USQ or did they just waive it for you?

How long would a DBA last if you already hold an MBA (on a part-time basis)? Do you know that?

Thanks a lot,

Trigger

 

There is no mandatory residence for the USQ DBA, for the other hand the PhD can only be completed on-campus. USQ professors travel to places where they have high concentration of students or use video conference to supervise students. But it is suggested to meet with your supervisor at least once.

a DBA is 24 units, you can get up to 12 units for your MBA but it is not always the case. After an evaluation they will let you know how many units do you have left for your DBA. The academic year at USQ is 3 semesters, it is possible to complete the DBA in three years (part-time), but four to five years is probably a more realistic goal (Unless you don't have a life)

 

RFValve,

What will be the total cost of the DBA? Thanks.

 

Try the Richard M Green Institute of BusinessDBA?

Try the Richard M Green Institute of Business ... can't you get hold of a DBA?

By the way, whic acccreited institution issues the MBA degree from the Richard M Green School of Business, or is it in fact accredited? I couldn't find it anywhere.

And also, are you any cinnectio tgo the Richard M Green who sold shelf 'university companies' thereby assisting some of the creeps get into business? South Dakota???? Maybe just a coincidence ...

 

How true ...

I totally agree - you are definitely NOT aiming for anywhere near to the top of the list here - just look at the content and hours involved ...

I'd say - don't waste your money. We generally don't do these degrees and definitely NOT for an academic purpose.

Sorry guys - just because it meets your 'accreditation' requirement doesn't mean that it is your best choice.

 

about 22,0000 AUD or 11,000 US. The cheapest DL DBA in the US is the one from Argosy at about 25,000 if I remember. For someone living in Canada, the first one makes more sense, but for an american resident perhaps it is better to pay the difference and get an american degree.

Regards,

 

Re: How true ...

Perhaps in the Australian context, but a DBA is acceptable for the american and canadian academic environment. Most of the business schools ask for either degree.

 

Re: Re: How true ...

...yes and that, but i was more commenting on where I would go for one out here.

Richard M Green from Richard M Green Business Institute which somehow offers the 'MBA', asks this question, having just come aboard lately ... reading his contributions again is interesting in the light of referring to his web page listed of his profile ....

 

Re: Re: Re: How true ...

The guy is a corporate trainer and needs a DBA to boost his marketing potential. If you read he teaches "MBA" like courses but without the "MBA" tag. I guess he needs the name doctor after his name to attract more clients. One of the problems of the MBAs of today is that we are just too many and need a PhD or DBA just to stand in the crowd.

I really don't understand universities, they make it so easy to get an MBA that now the name doesn't mean anything. From a two year full time course went to a one year online part time course. The same thing is happening to PhDs and DBAs, from the five year full time to the three year part time offered by schools like Capella or Argosy. Once we have too many PhDs, what will be the next step?

 

Re: Re: Re: Re: How true ...

Yes ... and I get a call to clean up another college that is about to bite the dust, and of course run by someone whose qualifications [Dr X] exceed mine [on paper] and who has held top jobs at reputable institutions ... but i have done my last one, and am simply sticking to teaching, so someone else can put this one out of its misery.

Yes ... and for an MBA the time requirement varies from 3,000+ hours to a little over 600 hours for the 'same' degree but from different universities - well in US parlance it would be regarded as the same degree, as one could be forgiven for thinking that accreditation is all that this group is about - what about the 'quality' of the education?

So ... it is not an MBA but a 'certificate' version of an MBA????? And as such it doesn't have to be accredited to be of use?> Why would someone bother to do it?

 

Out of all the American schools mentioned, Nova, Walden, and Capella Union etc., Argosy is the most economical.

Argosy University's DBA (60 credits) program cost approximately *$29,000. The school is very well organized and the course content is rigorous. Highly recommended!!!

*Effective September 1, 2002 ($480.00 per credit hour)

 

The Cost!!!!

For those prices you would really want the degree!

In Australia [and hwo really cares?] IF it is fee paying - MBA's and DBA's always are - it is about $800 -$1,200 a subject which can generally be tax deductible.

Hence the popularity of specific [MComm, MBus, MEngMgt, MAcc etc.] rather than general masters degrees, and with a research component - then we pay nothing other than the University general service fee - between $250 and $350. With a teaching contract payment of $50 - $70 an hour, our education is REALLY cheap!

I do feel sorry for the US graduate - to get a job he needs a doctorate [what the hell for?] and has to pay for the damn thing, and pay through the nose!

 

Re: The Cost!!!!

I think you are taking this too personal.

 

Re: The Cost!!!!

You have to bear in mind that salaries is the US are much higher than in Australia.

 

Re: How true ...

There quite few faculty teaching full at canadian universities with DBAs. I found this link to a canadian university with a faculty member with DBA from Southern Cross. The Southern Cross DBA is also a DL DBA.

http://www.brocku.ca/webcal/2002/undergrad/faculty.html?view=printable

 

Re: Re: How true ...

Southern Cross is a demerged part of my alma mater - UNE. The MBA/DBA was set up my Professor Geoff Meridith [ex UNE] and consequently would bear his 'mark' of excellence and utility.

Incidentally, regarding salaries out here, the numbers are not a lot different for income and expenditure, although values on conversion maybe [USD-AUD] but CPA's/CMA's for example are identical in numbers, and buying power very similar. Cars higher maybe, but overall, the numbers almost balance out. Graduate salaries are comparable and also at the 5 year mark the same. I did the calculations recently for a family who are relocating post Sept 11, on their exact spending requirements, and it was quite enlightening.

But if you asked someone out here to pay your sort of dollars for a degree, the universities would shut.