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    Iicse university

    Hi, I am studying with them, I am doing my PGDA. The only complaint I have is that I find them a little slow on answering emails, otherwise they seem ok.

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    when I plugged iicse into google the following two threads were in the top three

    IICSE University a scam?

    New one - IICSE University
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michele33 View Post
    Hi, I am studying with them, I am doing my PGDA. The only complaint I have is that I find them a little slow on answering emails, otherwise they seem ok.
    The parent of IICSE University is located in the Dummec Plaza, Abuja, Nigeria. Perhaps the wi-fi there is a bit slow. New one - IICSE University

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICSE Website
    ICSE University is a tuition-free, online distance learning University. No school fee is charged. Books and lecture materials are provided free of charge to all students.

    In order for the University to remain sustainable, we charge a one-time Application Processing Fee of $150 and an Exam Processing Fee of $50 per exam to cover the cost of processing the examination. One Exam per Course.
    Sounds like University of the People, except I've never heard of this school before. They're not claiming fake accreditation, which is a good sign, but they are not upfront about how their lack of accreditation would affect professional acceptance and certification eligibility of their accounting , nursing and law degrees.

    I can't find any information on their location or their faculty. The former is a huge red flag- unless it's hidden somewhere on a page I can't find, they don't even say what country they are located! The latter is troubling because they supposedly offer doctorates. How? By whom? What are their qualifications?

    Their "comments" page also doesn't bode well from them. Every last comment reads like a generic testimonial, peppered with very odd word choices, poor spelling and grammar. Some of them from commenters claiming to have advanced degrees from the school.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICSE Comment Page
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    None of this looks good.
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    Maniac, if you had had time to read the following thread, I doubt you'd have been so charitable in your initial approach to this "school": New one - IICSE University
    Their true location, AFAIK, is in the Dummec Plaza, a shopping complex in the Garki district of Abuja, Nigeria.

    I know you like languages, so here's a bit for you. I'm told at least some of the folks who run this "school" are Yoruba-speakers. Ni yi ńlá kan jegudujera! It works fine if you run it through Yoruba/English on Google Translate. That's where I got it, of course!

    And I can't even see a remote similarity between IICSE U. and Shai Reshef's University of the People, DEAC accredited - which, BTW is tuition-free ($100 exam fee, IIRC). One is a University, the other a "School."

    J.
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    IICSE University, 3422 Old Capitol Trail, Wilmington, Delaware. Old Harlington University used to be there, as are, I believe, the Institute of Certified Forensic Accountants , USA, the Chartered Association of Business Managers and the Chartered Institute of Management Consultants Canada. If memory serves me right, those are all organisations created by Usman Ali Awheela, an Irish University Business School graduate and West Coast University Panama professor. Professor Awheela, who is Nigerian, also holds a degree from Charisma University.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwa shenzi View Post
    IICSE University, 3422 Old Capitol Trail, Wilmington, Delaware. Old Harlington University used to be there, as are, I believe, the Institute of Certified Forensic Accountants, USA, the Chartered Association of Business Managers and the Chartered Institute of Management Consultants Canada. If memory serves me right, those are all organisations created by Usman Ali Awheela, an Irish University Business School graduate and West Coast University Panama professor. Professor Awheela, who is Nigerian, also holds a degree from Charisma University.
    I should point out that having an off-shore business license from Delaware is not the same thing as having Delaware state approval to operate a degree granting higher education institution.

    292 Post Secondary Institutions and Degree Granting Institutions of Higher Education

    2.0 Department Approval is Required prior to an Institution incorporating with the power to confer degrees, Operating or Offering any Courses in Delaware

    where 'Department' means 'Delaware Department of Education '.

    Their list of higher education institutions in Delaware is here

    https://www.doe.k12.de.us/domain/157

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    Maniac, if you had had time to read the following thread, I doubt you'd have been so charitable in your initial approach to this "school": New one - IICSE University.
    I prefer to be cautious when passing judgement, but I did point out several concerns and concluded with "none of this looks good." I see you've beaten me to the punch and found out a lot of things that I couldn't find, myself.

    Both the educational model it advertises and its cost are remarkably similar to University of the People. If anyone inquires about IICSE, I'd just point them there instead.
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    IICSE University:

    Our University is driven by a compelling vision to educate aged and the less-privileged people around the world, who cannot afford the cost of a traditional campus-based university education .

    IICSE University offers a broad range of online programs, all designed to take your career to the next level.
    SAARC University:

    Our University is driven by a compelling vision to educate aged and the less-privileged people around the world, who cannot afford the cost of a traditional campus-based university education. SAARC University offers a broad range of online programs, all designed to take your career to the next level.
    I have no idea if SAARC University, http : // saarc-university dot world/home is a legitimate institution in Thailand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwa shenzi View Post
    I have no idea if SAARC University, http : // saarc-university dot world/home is a legitimate institution in Thailand.
    Neither do I, at present - I'm working on it. All I knew going in was what the SAARC countries were. I read every word of the legal disclaimer on the site - and it's pretty all-encompassing re: denial of liability. Here's a sample:

    "This Document may contain forward looking statement like, but not limited to, regarding scope for further studies, career opportunities for graduates from the Institution. Such forward – looking statements contained herein are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those reflected in the forward – looking statement. The Institutions undertakes no duty to update any forward – looking statements."

    Hmmm...

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    SAARC University has an Indian Branch. Here's some press. SAARC University | The Daily Star
    I note it says SAARC U. degrees are/will be recognized by all eight SAARC countries. Is this documented anywhere, or is it among the "forward-looking statements?"

    A more recent article, on SAARC India's struggle for acceptance. http://www.livemint.com/Politics/V1e...cceptance.html

    J.
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    @johann

    It might interest you to know that a graduate of IICSE University has found a career at a university whose founder, well, let's say disagreed with us.
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    SAARC U. in Thailand is actually not in a SAARC country. Those countries are Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. I note from his name that the founder of SAARC-U. Thailand may be a Pakistani. Perhaps this is a strategic move to gain acceptance by students from Pakistan, which is a sAARC country. It was reported in one of the Indian articles that Pakistani prospective students were reluctant to enrol at SAARC-U. India as the Indian government required police reporting, to which they objected.

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    'SAARC university' seems to be an older name for what is now known as South Asian University.

    HOME - SAU - South Asian University

    https://thewire.in/42613/south-asian...blems-persist/

    'SAARC' is the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation, a regional association of south Asian nations that apparently founded this university. Its main campus is in Delhi India, occupying land donated by the Indian government, a SAARC member.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_...al_Cooperation

    The campus is still under construction (after several delays) and isn't yet accredited by NAAC, the Indian university accreditor. But it certainly appears to be real and UGC webpages mention it repeatedly.

    If IICSE's website shares text from one of South Asian University's older webpages, I'd guess that it was lifted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbwa shenzi View Post
    @johann

    It might interest you to know that a graduate of IICSE University has found a career at a university whose founder, well, let's say disagreed with us.
    Yes, I know. I think you mentioned him yesterday, in another thread. Sent you a PM.

    J.

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