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    ABD (All But Dissertation) Programs

    Does anyone know of universities that offer programs for ABD students?

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    In what academic field did you achieve ABD status?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoe777 View Post
    Does anyone know of universities that offer programs for ABD students?
    No, nothing specifically for American 'ABD' students.

    But you might want to check out British and British-style PhDs 'by research'. I have no experience with them, but my impression from afar is that aspiring doctoral students contact a potential research supervisor who helps facilitate admission and then the student starts researching their dissertations immediately. So in effect most British doctoral programs appear to my American eyes like 'ABD' programs.

    Completing an American doctoral program all except for the dissertation research and writing, but through the comprehensive exam stage, might look like good preparation for one of these programs. Your potential supervisor will probably question you pretty intensely about why you didn't complete your dissertation the first time, so as to ensure that you have a reasonable chance of completing it with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heirophant View Post
    No, nothing specifically for American 'ABD' students.

    But you might want to check out British and British-style PhDs 'by research'. I have no experience with them, but my impression from afar is that aspiring doctoral students contact a potential research supervisor who helps facilitate admission and then the student starts researching their dissertations immediately. So in effect most British doctoral programs appear to my American eyes like 'ABD' programs.

    Completing an American doctoral program all except for the dissertation research and writing, but through the comprehensive exam stage, might look like good preparation for one of these programs. Your potential supervisor will probably question you pretty intensely about why you didn't complete your dissertation the first time, so as to ensure that you have a reasonable chance of completing it with them.
    Off the top of your head, can you think of any British-style PhDs 'by research' universities? Will they be recognized by our (US) accrediting body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoe777 View Post
    Off the top of your head, can you think of any British-style PhDs 'by research' universities? Will they be recognized by our (US) accrediting body?
    I could say this gently but I want to be sure you understand . . . you just need to do some homework. You need to do some basicbasic reading about the US system of accrediting universities and colleges. Then you need to read up on the British system. Then you need to read up on the system by which the degrees from one country are determined to be equivalent (or not) to those of another country. You could start here

    https://www.ed.gov/accreditation

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher..._accreditation

    I'm saying this because it's clear that you don't know much about it. That's not a terrible thing but it's a situation that you need to correct if you're going to move forward. The fact is that 99% of British PhD programs are "by research." By the way that's also true for Australian PhDs as well as South African PhDs. This is a PhD you're considering. It's years and years of your time. Thousands and thousands of dollars. You have to become a bit of an expert before you even start. If you don't then you're likely to end up here

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    We are happy to help . . . point the way . . . give some tips, but you have to do the heavy lifting yourself. Go check out those British universities. Start with Birmingham and Leicester. Depending on your subject area, other names will pop up. Get really good at google searching. You can do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoe777 View Post
    Off the top of your head, can you think of any British-style PhDs 'by research' universities?
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    That's how most British universities offer their doctoral programs. The question then would be which ones welcome remote distance learning students. (Sometimes they can be vague about that, since it can be up to your supervisor.) You should do your own web search with the name of your subject and the words "distance learning" or perhaps "online". See whether any British, Australian or NZ doctoral programs come up. Then research them yourself.

    Will they be recognized by our (US) accrediting body?
    British universities aren't typically accredited by American accrediting bodies. Britain has its own Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education . I think that generally speaking, anything reviewed and approved by the QAA will be recognized by American universities and employers as possessing the equivalent of American accreditation.

    You can find official lists of recognized British higher education institutions here:

    https://www.gov.uk/check-a-universit...lly-recognised

    If you intend to use any degree (especially any foreign degree) to qualify for a professional license in the United States (or anywhere), you probably need to consult with your local professional licensing board to ensure that particular programs meet their education requirements.
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    These do exist in the U.S. Walden has a PhD completion program. Gwynedd Mercy University has an Executive EdD for ABD students.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanantone View Post
    These do exist in the U.S. Walden has a PhD completion program. Gwynedd Mercy University has an Executive EdD for ABD students.
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    See the following:

    https://www.waldenu.edu/doctoral/phd...n-requirements

    https://www.mville.edu/programs/doct...nal-leadership
    The Executive Ed.D. program is designed specifically for those who were enrolled in an accredited educational leadership doctoral program and completed all requirements but the dissertation (ABD).

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    Manhattanville College and Gwynedd Mercy University appear to have very similar programs.
    Texas State University - PhD CJ (ABD)
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    I haven't really read through this one carefully but it would seem to fit the description: Athabasca University

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanantone View Post
    These do exist in the U.S. Walden has a PhD completion program. Gwynedd Mercy University has an Executive EdD for ABD students.
    Thank you very much sanatone!

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    That dissertation is probably going to throw you for a loop if finding a school/program through Google is an insurmountable task.

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