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    Spanish Masters?

    I'm wanting to work on my Spanish ( I have very little) I am not a good fit for the DMIN I was in so I want to do something that would help me more and that's learn fluent Spanish. Can this be done at the masters level, does a program exist? I didn't use FinAid for my first Bachelors but did for my Masters degree. Does that mean I can't use FinAid for a new Bachelors degree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by b4cz28 View Post
    I'm wanting to work on my Spanish ( I have very little) I am not a good fit for the DMIN I was in so I want to do something that would help me more and that's learn fluent Spanish. Can this be done at the masters level, does a program exist? I didn't use FinAid for my first Bachelors but did for my Masters degree. Does that mean I can't use FinAid for a new Bachelors degree?

    Fluency in Spanish might be achieved through CLEP. Won't a degree involve history , culture and the name of Cervantes' horse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b4cz28 View Post
    I'm wanting to work on my Spanish ( I have very little) I am not a good fit for the DMIN I was in so I want to do something that would help me more and that's learn fluent Spanish. Can this be done at the masters level, does a program exist? I didn't use FinAid for my first Bachelors but did for my Masters degree. Does that mean I can't use FinAid for a new Bachelors degree?
    That's great! I might suggest an old school B&M for language fluency though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decimon View Post
    Won't a degree involve history, culture and the name of Cervantes' horse?
    Rocinante. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocinante Well, Don Quixote's horse, anyway. And yes, a degree in Spanish (or any other language) would involve all manner of cultural things. You'll need the fluency and knowledge acquired in a Bachelor's program before entering a Master's program.

    I remember someone on another forum saying basically "you can test out for an entire degree majoring in a language. you take the Gen-ed requirements, then this language CLEP and that language CLEP and ONE test for the culture and bang, you're done." Not the way it works. I have some experience with languages at University level - beginner and advanced. Getting a language degree doesn't work that wasy - at least where I went to school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    I remember someone on another forum saying basically "you can test out for an entire degree majoring in a language. you take the Gen-ed requirements, then this language CLEP and that language CLEP and ONE test for the culture and bang, you're done." Not the way it works. I have some experience with languages at University level - beginner and advanced. Getting a language degree doesn't work that wasy - at least where I went to school.

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    Probably the same with gaining fluency in Spanish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decimon View Post
    "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?"

    "Practice, practice, practice."


    Probably the same with gaining fluency in Spanish.
    Exactly. No substitute.

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    A degree is often not the most expedient route to a skill. Consider what you want to do with your new language. If you want to socialize or work with people who speak it, or even live in another country, maybe you don't need a degree in the language. If you want to be able to teach it -- then you likely do.

    Think of it like any other skill. If you were interested in auto mechanics or welding , would you look for a degree program? You might, you might not. Depends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    If you were interested in auto mechanics or welding, would you look for a degree program? You might, you might not. Depends.
    If you do, I could probably recommend a good one But I agree with Johann and decimon. If your main goal is to improve your functional Spanish then hanging out at the local café with a copy of El Nuevo Dia is probably your best bet (and the cheapest).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizmet View Post
    ...If your main goal is to improve your functional Spanish then hanging out at the local café with a copy of El Nuevo Dia is probably your best bet (and the cheapest).
    Sí. Eres muy sabia. (Yes. You are very wise.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    (Yes. You are very wise.)
    Let's not get carried away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    Rocinante. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocinante Well, Don Quixote's horse, anyway. And yes, a degree in Spanish (or any other language) would involve all manner of cultural things. You'll need the fluency and knowledge acquired in a Bachelor's program before entering a Master's program.

    I remember someone on another forum saying basically "you can test out for an entire degree majoring in a language. you take the Gen-ed requirements, then this language CLEP and that language CLEP and ONE test for the culture and bang, you're done." Not the way it works. I have some experience with languages at University level - beginner and advanced. Getting a language degree doesn't work that wasy - at least where I went to school.

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    That might have been me, and yes, that's the way it works at TESU with some minor corrections to what you wrote. People have done it before. The Big 3 are the main schools discussed on that forum, so it wasn't about how it worked at your school. They are the original competency-based schools, so earning a degree this way isn't about learning. It's about demonstrating proficiency you already have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanantone
    It's about demonstrating proficiency you already have.
    Then - if it's a degree program with a language major, besides grammar and fluency, it should include demonstrating these proficiencies:

    • Your knowledge of the history and old forms of the language. That could take several courses. Morphology, syntax, the whole thing.
    • Your knowledge of the history of the country of origin and relevance to language influences and development. More than a one-course deal.
    • Your knowledge of literature written in the language in various periods. Again, a multi-course deal.
    • Appropriate cultural literacy - which takes in a lot of the three fields above and maybe a current affairs course.

    You should have to learn these somewhere - to earn any language degree, competency-based or not. Anything less, you've learned to speak/write a language - but not earned a degree majoring in it. At least where I live.
    Same deal - for English (major) degrees or other languages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    Then - if it's a degree program with a language major, besides grammar and fluency, it should include demonstrating these proficiencies:

    • Your knowledge of the history and old forms of the language. That could take several courses. Morphology, syntax, the whole thing.
    • Your knowledge of the history of the country of origin and relevance to language influences and development. More than a one-course deal.
    • Your knowledge of literature written in the language in various periods. Again, a multi-course deal.
    • Appropriate cultural literacy - which takes in a lot of the three fields above and maybe a current affairs course.

    You should have to learn these somewhere - to earn any language degree, competency-based or not. Anything less, you've learned to speak/write a language - but not earned a degree majoring in it. At least where I live.
    Same deal - for English (major) degrees or other languages.

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    Poll:

    A -I would do the above

    B -I would watch reruns of Barnaby Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by decimon View Post
    Poll:

    A -I would do the above
    B -I would watch reruns of Barnaby Jones
    I'd do both. I discovered something interesting about Barnaby just the other day. In the middle, the name has an Arabic word - arnab - meaning rabbit. Written thus: أرنب

    Words fascinate me - any language. I know very little Arabic, but I knew this word because I like the critters - and calligraphers in Arabic do beautiful things with animal designs, including rabbits.
    I'll never have a degree in Arabic - but I'm learning to do some nice writing in it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    Then - if it's a degree program with a language major, besides grammar and fluency, it should include demonstrating these proficiencies:

    • Your knowledge of the history and old forms of the language. That could take several courses. Morphology, syntax, the whole thing.
    • Your knowledge of the history of the country of origin and relevance to language influences and development. More than a one-course deal.
    • Your knowledge of literature written in the language in various periods. Again, a multi-course deal.
    • Appropriate cultural literacy - which takes in a lot of the three fields above and maybe a current affairs course.

    You should have to learn these somewhere - to earn any language degree, competency-based or not. Anything less, you've learned to speak/write a language - but not earned a degree majoring in it. At least where I live.
    Same deal - for English (major) degrees or other languages.

    J.
    That's true for any subject, so I don't know why it needs to be specified. When people test out of courses, they don't absorb the information from the universe. They learned it from somewhere.
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