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    dlady is offline Registered User
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    Quote Originally Posted by heirophant View Post
    Threats of law suits are often used as bullying and intimidation. I just viscerally dislike that aspect of tort law. I'm not convinced that WLC is the underdog. It's ostensibly a higher education institution and DEAC is just an office that I'd guess isn't very large. I would guess that WLC has a larger staff and a larger annual budget than DEAC.

    I see an educational institution that got into accreditation trouble trying to bully and bluster itself out of those difficulties instead of trying to address the accreditor's concerns.

    We saw something similar with City College of San Francisco. It failed repeatedly to meet a number of WASC accreditation standards. WASC put it on show-cause, nothing improved and WASC eventually pulled its accreditation. That action was met by a blizzard of lawsuits from the city, the state and the teachers unions. The Obama administration put its thumb on the scale (Nancy Pelosi is congresswoman-for-life from San Francisco), threatening to de-recognize WASC. So WASC caved. Today CCSF advertises itself as "fully accredited" despite not meeting accreditation standards.

    So that's where I'm coming from and the lens through which I see this latest DEAC thing.

    I have a totally negative prejudice against schools trying to evade their responsibility to meet accreditation standards by threatening to destroy their accreditor in court. I have an even stronger prejudice against the harm that a WLC victory would do to all the other schools that DEAC accredits, to their students and to their alums.

    And I have a totally negative prejudice against jury duty. But when I'm forced into it, I try to do it well. Dave seems to be trying to litigate this thing here on Degreeinfo and in order for me to function as a juror, I need to hear DEAC's response to Dave's and his attorney's allegations.

    Sure no worries. However, your perspective on history can be largely reliant on where you choose to enter it. This is our response to their claims. They went public first, we followed. What are they going to do, make up new stuff they forgot to put in the show cause letter.

    This forum is one of the only voices I have. They have a loud voice, we are a whisper on the wind.

    I believe in doing the right thing, the right way. Anyone can take a punch, the measure of a person is the willingness to stand back up and look your attacker in the eye one more time.

    And for the record, we are not evading anything. We're not asking a court to overrule them, we have lost faith in them. We demand justice.

    However it end, no regrets.
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    I think any insinuation that you are filing a frivolous lawsuit or are just looking to get rich is just plain stupid. Everyone knows that if you are doing this, you have good cause. I admire you, it takes some big cajones to do what you are doing.

    All the best mi amigo Dr. Lady. If anyone can take a punch, you can. And I know sure as hell that you can punch back pretty damn good as well. :) The pen is mightier than the sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlady View Post
    Sure no worries. However, your perspective on history can be largely reliant on where you choose to enter it. This is our response to their claims. They went public first, we followed. What are they going to do, make up new stuff they forgot to put in the show cause letter.

    This forum is one of the only voices I have. They have a loud voice, we are a whisper on the wind.

    I believe in doing the right thing, the right way. Anyone can take a punch, the measure of a person is the willingness to stand back up and look your attacker in the eye one more time.

    And for the record, we are not evading anything. We're not asking a court to overrule them, we have lost faith in them. We demand justice.

    However it end, no regrets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abner View Post
    I admire you, it takes some big cajones to do what you are doing.

    Big box drums? I'm not sure the judge will allow that. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by decimon View Post
    Big box drums? I'm not sure the judge will allow that. ;-)
    He he! I meant cojones (balls).



    co·jo·nes
    noun
    NORTH AMERICAN informal
    (a man's testicles)

    Sorry for the hijack Dr. Lady!

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