Are Ashworth college and Penn Foster college internationally accredited?

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  1. dimrg

    dimrg New Member

    Hello,


    I am from and I live in Greece and I would like to study either at Ashworth college or at Penn Foster college. I haven't made up my mind yet so any suggestions are welcomed! But I can't find in the information if they are internationally accredited, I can only get that they are nationally accredited...so, do you know? Are they internationally accredited? If I get a paper from one of them would it be recognized in my country? And last but not least, which one do you think is best?
    Thank you in advance.


    All the best,
    Kyriaki
     
  2. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    You need to ask your country for an answer to that question. One country will accept it, another may not.
    Generally speaking, it should be using the GAAP (Generally Accepted Accrediting Principle), but not always.
    I know all NA and RA schools are going to be ranked and rated differently from country to country, even within the same country.
     
  3. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Oh, further to that, if I had the choice and only these two were options, I would take the required courses for an Associates.
    Then transfer them into a Bachelors degree at Patten or WGU (or another competency based program that allows Nationally accredited credentials). Patten and WGU, as well as Hodges for example, are Regionally Accredited, so they are the gold standard. Again, even with a "gold standard", some countries will not accept them, it all depends on the receiving nation.
     
  4. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    There is no such thing as international accreditation.
     
  5. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    As Ted stated, there is no such thing as international accreditation. Both colleges are nationally accredited in the U.S. which is a recognized form of accreditation. However, regional accreditation is more respected. When I lived in the Caribbean, my qualifications from Ashworth were evaluated as being equivalent in my country. When I applied to study in India, my degree was accepted (though never evaluated) :tapedshut: It would be helpful to check the relevant organization in your country that is responsible for evaluating foreign qualifications.
     
  6. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Where in the Caribbean? I am from the grenadines.
     
  7. mintaru

    mintaru Active Member

    That's of course true. Kyriaki means obviously "internationally recognised". However, some accreditation agencies are internationally recognised. AACSB is a good example and I think it's possible to call them an "international accreditation agency". The only problem is: Non of these internationally recognised agencies offers institutional accreditation.

    Kyriaki, I think you should contact the Hellenic NARIC. I found this English page on their website: ...... - It seems to be the organization in Greece that's responsible for evaluating foreign degrees. (By the way, why do they need a copy of a high school diploma to evaluate a degree? The whole process seems to be quite complicated.)
     
  8. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    There are "schools" that claim "international accreditation" but those can be dismissed the moment you see that term.
     
  9. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    AACSB, although no long CHEA or DOE recognized, is no more internationally recognized than any other CHEA recognized agency. I think the accreditation of the institution is what really matters when it comes to degree evaluation and not so much the programmatic accreditation.

    RA and NA are internationally recognized and they have granted institutional accreditation to schools outside the U.S.

    University of South Africa and Deakin University, Australia were both accredited by DEAC.

    Athabasca University (Canada), American University in Cairo (Egypt) and H. Lavity Stoutt Community College (BVI) are few of the 17 international institutions accredited by MSCHE.

    Abu Dhabi University (UAE), Amity University (India) and American University of Armenia are WSCUC.
     
  10. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    The Land of Wood and Water :)
     
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  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It only matters in a few edge cases, such as how Germany will only recognize foreign MBAs that are AACSB accredited.

    I don't think this is your intention, but this is dangerously misleading. There are countries that only recognize U.S. regional accreditation and not U.S. national accreditation, such as the UK and Germany. Just because DEAC accredited a few non-U.S. schools in the past doesn't mean that they're recognized worldwide.
     
  12. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    My first quest would have been Dominica with it abundance of water and trees. However, the arrawak's word Xaymaca is abundance of water and trees
     
  13. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is a recognized form of accreditation. And it should be recognized in situations that rely on a country's normal recognition process. Yet I started a multipage thread on how Ashworth degree was rejected even in a situation where, according to written rules, it had to be accepted. Outcome: after a year and a filed lawsuit, the organization accepted the degree... and then rewrote the rules to reject it for future applicants.

    If at all possible, stick to RA or foreign equivalent (caveat emptor on the latter). You'll save yourself trouble.
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Many of those overseas schools that had/have US institutional accreditation did so for one reason: to attract US students to their distance programs. For their homeland students, they already had top-notch accreditation from their own countries. (UNISA, Deakin, Athabasca...)

    In these cases, the US accreditation was simply icing on the cake. Some (e.g. UNISA) have since dropped it. I guess they feel their reputation abroad has outgrown the need. Well, yeah, I guess it has. :smile:

    J.
     
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  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    When I visited Jamaica, the taxi man asked me how I liked it, and I said it was like Dominica except that we had steeper climbs, more rain, and worse roads. :smile:
     
  16. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    :haha::haha: Leave my country's roads alone lol
     
  17. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    Is this real?
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Sure it is. Some attribute the term GAAP (accreditation) to the eminent Dr. John Bear, who illuminated the concept for our use. Its origins are believed to have been during an AACRAO presentation many moons ago. Two reference pages here. What About International Accreditation? - Baker's Guide to Christian Online Learning

    The second site is a degree.net page you can reach with a link from the Baker's Guide page. Basically, GAAP are defined this way:

    "To offer recognized accreditation under GAAP, and accrediting agency must meet at least one of the following four criteria: Recognized by the Council on Higher Education Accreditation in Washington, DC Recognized by the U.S. Department of Education Recognized by (or more commonly, a part of) their relevant national education agency Schools they accredit are routinely listed in one or more of the following publications: the International Handbook of Universities (a UNESCO publication), the Commonwealth Universities Yearbook, the World Education Series, published by PIER, or the Countries Series, published by NOOSR in Australia."

    The term GAAP is real. Is GAAP always real accreditation? You decide.

    J.
     
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  19. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Ya mon. So are you still Ph.D. to be or are you now Ph.D.?
     
  20. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    What I want to know is , of all the schools in the world, how did you narrow it down to Ashworth and Penn Foster?
     

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