Frederick Taylor Has Found God (and a few other things)

Yes, indeed. FTU has undergone a changed in ownership, is apparently starting a physical campus, has relocated, and has also found the Lord.

1) Here's a refreshed website: Frederick Taylor University – Excellence in Online Education Since 1994

2) In the updated catalog, it mentions the change of ownership on page 8:

In May 2017, Frederick Taylor University had a change in ownership and relocated its campus from Northern California (Moraga) to Southern California (Orange) and shifted its focus to traditional method of instruction, while maintaining its excellent distance education.

The catalog is also where you will find the first mention EVER of FTU being a Christian institution and it begins with its new mention statement (and there's lots more after this):

Frederick Taylor University is an institution of higher learning based on Christianity, which aspires to provide professional skills and instill spiritual ideals to enable students to serve the community and become global leaders.

http://ftu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/FTU_Catalog_2017_170505.pdf

3) The faculty page has been expanded. It includes the former owners, Mansour Saki & Sheila Nayeri, along with a guy named Ryan Doan who is listed as the Executive Director at International American University which had a failed DEAC bid a few years ago (I don't know if they applied and didn't get it or started the process and gave up: Administrative Staff – IAU)


As some of you may recall from older posts, I'm a graduate of FTU. I finished my BS degree in 2008 and I can honestly say the degree has served me well.

I must admit, though, that I find these changes somewhat troublesome. As many of you know, California's BPPE made some regulation changes a few years that required currently state approved but unaccredited institutions to achieve candidacy or "pre-accreditation" by 2017 and full accreditation by 2020. My assumption is that FTU was nowhere close to achieving that. FTU has never been listed as an applicant for any accrediting body as far as I can tell. They never mentioned anything on their website other than adding that BPPE require statement about the regulation changes (you can see that here: Approval and Authority to Grant Degrees – Frederick Taylor University)

So, being nowhere close to obtaining accreditation which places them at risk of losing their license to operate, I think they have deliberately flipped the script and transformed into a religious institution nearly over night so they can continue to operate under the auspices of "religious exemption". :yuck:

If anyone has any evidence to the contrary, I'd love to hear about it.

 

Perhaps a precursor to applying for TRACS accreditation?

 

So, another unaccredited, religious-exempt school. :dead1:

 

A California religious exemption only applies to schools that exclusively award degrees in religious subjects.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=EDC&sectionNum=94874.

FTU seems to specialize in Business Administration.

Programs – Frederick Taylor University

So a religious exemption wouldn't be applicable.

 

They could go for DEAC.

 

Yes - they could have done. Now or any time in years past. But they haven't. Not even an application. And I think that's significant.

J.

 

I was a bit surprised by "Frederick Taylor found God." (You made me look! :smile I think Frederick Taylor himself was a surpassingly mean-spirited man. He said very derogatory things about the laborers who were part of his management studies - how they were stupid, how intelligence in the workforce was a dangerous and undesirable thing, how workers should be paid the least possible wage, etc.

I don't think he was very Godly at all - at least according to my definition, which may not fit all sizes. Find God? Taylor is lucky Karl Marx never found him!

However, I did like Frederick Taylor U. The one in California, not the closed-down branch in Hawaii. Not sure how I like it now. Unaccredited schools teaching non-religious subjects -- that's just not a sustainable strategy nowadays, particularly in California. Don't know where they're going with this.

J.

 

My guess would be ACBSP.

 

Maybe they are hoping Purdue will buy them:thinkerg::no1:

 

FTU used to claim its accreditation from Maxine Asher's phony "World Association of Universities and Colleges." To their credit, they voluntarily resigned from WAUC not too long after I had a pleasant lunch with Mr. Saki.

In 1997, FTU emulated Pacific Western, and established an apparently identical university in Hawaii, called Frederick Taylor International University, run from the same California offices as FTU. Three years later, they settled a lawsuit by the State of Hawaii by paying lots of money and agreeing to make refunds to all students. They dissolved the Hawaii corporation and reincorporated in Montana, and I have no idea what happened since.

 

Haha...I thought the same thing. Unfortunately, now I imagine that the university itself actually looks like the Hawthorne plant!

 

Reminds me of the Henry Ford scene from Ragtime the Musical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=840DM5UkrVI.

FWIW, I think Ragtime is the best musical written in the last 25 years - I've seen it nine times around the country - it's one of those shows that, if it's playing where I am, I'll go just to catch what directors and casts do with some of the different productions. Coincidentally, I saw it last night in Dayton, OH. If you want to check out a great production of the whole show, there's one at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghjI1c-kkuo

 

I hope we're not witnessing another California Pacific U. debacle with Frederick Taylor University. That school also "found God" - i.e. suddenly added religious degrees. Here's the CPU chronology:

(1) Unaccredited school teaches business degrees - no problems for about 30 years.
(2) School is sold, new owner immediately adds religious degrees into the mix
(3) School collapses.

IIRC The new owner ran afoul of the BPPE and incurred a fine of about $5,000, for not filing reports.

Yes, he did. Thread here: http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-discussions-ra-detc-state-approval-unaccredited-schools/53563-california-pacific-university.html

Strangely, there is a new website; California Pacific is supposed to be managed by an Alumni Association - still offering those Theology Degrees.
Here: https://www.capacificuniversity.education/index.php

Be that as it may, I see no approval on the BPPE site. https://app.dca.ca.gov/bppe/view-voc-names.asp?schlname=California+Pacific+University&Submit=Search

Ergo - CPU is not approved to operate in California. I hope Frederick Taylor doesn't suffer the same fate.

J.

 

All,

I am reviving this thread again because Frederick Taylor now appears to be associated with American Leadership University or vice versa or one is replacing the other or....??

The FTU and ALU sites are nearly identical in terms of look/feel, faculty, etc. They also share an address, the only difference being the suite number.

FTU: Frederick Taylor University – Excellence in Online Education Since 1994

ALU: American Leadership University – ALU Website

 

...and they both face the BPPE's "Accredit or Die" legislation. If they don't find recognized accreditation by the stipulated date, goodbye California. Where to, then? Panama?

Gabe, I respect you and your accomplishments - and I believe you - and you alone - are probably 100% responsible for your own good learning experience at FTU. I take you and what you say seriously, but I can hardly be expected to take FTU seriously after reading the Wiki:

" In 2012, the New York Times reported that it is located in an office building in Moraga where it occupies a "cramped office on the second floor".[4]

The institution lists six faculty members, led by Mansour S. Saki and his wife, Zhilla Nayeri Saki. Mansour Saki reports holding a Ph.D. from the CSM Institute of Graduate Studies, while Zhilla Saki reports a doctorate-level degree in business administration from the same school. According to the New York Times, CSM relinquished its accreditation in 2004. The Sakis' daughter, Maryam S. Boller, is also on the faculty.[4] Boller holds a bachelor's degree from University of California, Berkeley and a master's degree from the University of London."

So - owners/faculty, Mom and Dad, have degrees from CSM (The Canadian School of Management - long gone, AFAIK) from which the DETC (now DEAC) mysteriously yanked accreditation in 2004. I have never found the explanation for this and to the best of my knowledge, DETC never went public on it. In addition, I note Dad's degree, from this same school (CSM), is a Ph.D. We all know that DETC/DEAC has never authorized a PhD. Nope - not even ONE! Don't like this at all.

J.