Another case of National Accreditation (TRACS) Transfer to RA University.

I thought I would post this by Russell Morris as he posted it in another thread many may not have read due to the fact that it dealt with a specific religious program (Louisiana Baptist University).

Russell Morris

 

North,

It looks like there is a trend toward recognition of national accreditation which is, I believe, a healthy thing. If a certain department or institution is accredited by its national agency (TRACS, the American Academy for Liberal Education, etc.) and if the agency itself is thorough, then RA institutions should recognize the accreditation.

Tony Pina

 

Dr. Mitch Bevell told me via phone that for years the University of Oklahoma had basically ignored ACCS. Since their TRACS accreditation UO now accepts all ACCS general education courses as a matter of policy. I would assume that all other courses would be accepted as well if they aligned with a UO degree program or as electives.

 

Not Quite a Trend

Anthony, it would be great if indeed it was a trend. It appears to me, however, that for every one story we hear of a regionally accredited institution accepting a nationally accredited institution's credits, we hear four or five of the rejection.

 

For any of the RA's to accept transfer credit from an NA institution is to validate NA, which inturn will create competition for RA institutions. Competition isn't of great concern for the large public universities but certainly is for the DL institutions, such as Walden, Union, and some of the others. Capella on the other hand seems to understand the feeder/referral source from DETC and TRACS.

North, you strike me as being insecure with the whole NA thing.
You spend as much time trying to justify NA as Russell used to do regarding GAAP. Please don't take this personal, nor you Russell but IMHO the theme of your posts and the number regarding TRACS, smells of insecurity.

BTW, I am really enjoying the ACCS experience. Although I am not an advocate of the US accreditation system esp., the RA's I am glad that I was able to locate an accredited program that meets my needs. For me the CA Approval process jumped all my hurdles except the code of ethics ssue of my professional certifications. Once determined I had to withdraw without delay.

Regards, Wes

 

As far as ACCS being accepted at OU i wonder if Mitch Bevelle's PHd from their and his connections with OU are part of the reasons for the acceptence of ACCS credits. My understanding is that it can be a very subjective issues as to the transfer of credits.

As to the comments about North and Russell's desire to show the validity of Gaap or TRACS. I for one would want a school that i attend to be well received and would celebrate their successes. There are certainly enough people on this site who would want to show the superiority of RA and the inferiority of Natl accrediting agencies.

I am pleased that Mitch is working for those who want to transfer credits and for the school and its acceptance in the educational community. Go ACCS!

Robert

DMIN ACCS (IN PROGRESS)

 

Robert,
Mitch Beville's degrees are not from OU - they are all from the University of Colorado.

Mitch's Credentials

 

Can't speak for Russell but for my part it is more in line with what Robert says in that I am interested in doing anything I can to raise the credibility & promote TRACS. I am an ardent supporter of a conservative Christian accrediting agency.

Good luck to both you & Roberts as you pursue your doctorates.

North

 

Wow! I guess that at least shoots down that idea. Thanks for the correction.

Robert

 

When I graduated from Ozark Christian College I applied and was accepted into the M.A. (Communications) program at Southwest Missouri State University in Springfield, MO without question. Ozark is accredited by AABC but not RA. Southwest is RA. While this was not a transfer of credit, it was the acceptance of a nationally accredited degree as a basis for entering a RA graduate program. (I dropped the program before I ever got started for a number of reasons, but the acceptance was automatic).

Barry

 

You have made your very first "at-a-distance" diagnosis, Wes. Could you also prescribe Paxil for my insecure and agoraphobic moments?

Seriously, my many posts regarding GAAP, and even some unaccredited programs, are for the purpose of promoting dialogue. While DegreeInfo is a subculture of its own, perceptions on this forum are somewhat a microcosm of perceptions at large.

All the best in your D.Min. studies!