Ed.S then Ed.D or Ed.D then Ed.S?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by AlK11, Dec 24, 2016.

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  1. AlK11

    AlK11 Active Member

    I'm still a ways away from making this decision but I figured I'd ask. I just finished my first semester at Fort Hays State in the MS in Heath and Human Performance program. Assuming I finish it, I'd like to continue my education. Currently my professional goals include either coaching full time or teaching full-time and coaching on the side. I found two programs that interest me and both could help me with my career goals, I'm just not sure which to do first. I understand that an Ed.S is typically just a terminal degree if you don't want a doctorate. However, I still want my doctorate, but the Ed.S is in a field that a could help support the doctorate. Anyway, the ED.S is from Valdosta State in Coaching Pedagogy and the doctorate is an Ed.D in kinesiology from UNC Greensboro. So if I were to do both programs, would it be better to get the Ed.S first or the Ed.D?
     
  2. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    The Ed.S. is a lower degree than the Ed.D., so the natural progression would be Ed.S. to Ed.D.

    The American College of Education offers a Ed.S. in Leadership where all the credits will transfer to the Ed.D. program
     
  3. AlK11

    AlK11 Active Member

    Thank you very much for the quick reply. I understand the Ed.S is lower, but it would be in a somewhat unrelated field. Would that make a difference? I can see an Ed.S in leadership leading to a Ed.D in leadership. But in my case would an Ed.S in Coaching Pedagogy lead to an Ed.D in kinesiology? At that point does it matter the order? Also I'm not interested at all the the Ed.S in leadership you mentioned. As stated before, I'm interested in the Ed.S I mentioned because it would complement the Ed.D and help with my career goals.
     
  4. TomE

    TomE New Member

    When you say teaching full time in your original post are you referring to K-12 or in higher education? Depending on which you are referring to, further credentialing (which may or may not be covered in the Ed.S program) may be necessary.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Step one, decide.

    Step two, make an education plan to reach that goal.
     
  6. AlK11

    AlK11 Active Member

    Most likely teaching K-12, more specifically physical education at a 9-12 level. I should add that I already have a K-12 teaching certificate from my undergrad. But I am also open to higher education.
     
  7. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    You don't need a grad degree to be a coach. Skip the EdS and go straight to the EdD
     
  8. AlK11

    AlK11 Active Member

    I know that. I'm already a college coach. But I'm sure the degree could still help and I can learn a lot from it.
     
  9. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I guess if you're playing with someone else's money it's not a big deal.
     
  10. TomE

    TomE New Member

    Seconded. EdD will open a lot more doors and "only" pursuing it will free up a lot more time (for teaching and coaching!)
     

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