Online PhD in Liberal Arts???

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by NYC1808, Sep 5, 2016.

Loading...
  1. NYC1808

    NYC1808 New Member

    Does anyone know of an online PhD in humanities or liberal arts (or doctor of arts, or liberal studies etc.) that doesn't involve Faulkner (too Christian) or Harrison Middleton (not accredited)?

    I'm looking for something affordable and regionally accredited. Doesn't have to be US based.

    Ideas?
     
  2. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

  3. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

    Just so you know, Harrison Middleton is a nationally (DEAC) accredited university.
     
  4. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    This is normally the part where at least some of us berate you for being lazy.

    Our first move is going to be to google your request )something you probably should have done before posting here).

    But whether you wrote of HMU as "not accredited" simply because you conflated non-RA with unaccredited in your mind or you really and truly don't understand why what you wrote was incorrect it was an unnecessary slap at a university that, RA v NA debate aside, has been generally well regarded on this forum.

    Beyond that I find it amusing/irritating how many people express this urgent desire to embark on doctoral level research but can't channel that research effort into finding a school that offers their program without coming here and asking for a list like we're Chacha.

    I'm sure others, more kindhearted than myself, will offer you a few suggestions. I'm just going to leave it there and get back to my quesadilla.

    But before I go let me just say that I get why people come seeking our counsel. And I think that's fine. But "please give me a list" with the only qualifiers being a doctorate in "liberal arts" or "humanities" and not "too christian" isn't helpful. It leads to us listing things and OPs with less than a dozen posts then dismantling the list in front of us.

    Consider posting more information. You might also consider engaging in a discussion rather than just giving us a vague assignment and walking away.
     
  5. NYC1808

    NYC1808 New Member

    Still no vible option ...

    Although I appreciate the contributions so far, there are no viable options. Harrison Middleton is nationally accredited, okay, I don't consider that useful for doctoral studies in the arts. Regina Salve required significant residencies as does Oxford. Oxford is also not really affordable.

    So, again, does anyone know of a good online (or nearly fully online) PhD or doctorate in the liberal arts or humanities that can be completed for 40K or so? I really cannot find anything and would be very appreciative of any good leads.....
     
  6. NYC1808

    NYC1808 New Member

    Thanks for this, but I take some offense. I am new to this forum and came here for help, not a lecture. I know how to research quite well, thank you. I have also done so before posting. Yet, I also do not have time or perhaps the ability to examine every university web page on the internet. My "Google search" (which I have done many, many times) brings up either programs like Harrison Middleton or Faulkner. Yes, I have ruled the two out. I am not a bible thumper (they require NO sexual intimacy prior to marriage, for example) and I do not value nationally accredited universities for doctoral programs in the arts, not because I have an issue but because in the real world 99% of employers will.

    Having said all of this and defended myself extensively, I simply came here to see if anyone had a lead that I didn't happen to come upon in my extensive search for an affordable regionally-accredited online doctoral program in liberal arts. I guess it was a mistake to ask for help. I apologize and I will move on. Thanks for nothing (minus the snide reproach).
     
  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

  8. NYC1808

    NYC1808 New Member

    Price

    The price seems very high! I'm looking for something in the 30-40k range. Regionally accredited. Doctoral level in humanities or liberal arts with very low residency or fully online. Doesn't seem to exist!
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 5, 2016
  9. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Then you'll have to either revise your expectations or forget the humanities doctorate.
     
  10. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    So why not just go with Faulkner? It's 100% online and very affordable. Are you so disturbed by the religious affiliation that you are willing to mark it off your list, even though it meets all of your other requirements?
     
  11. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I find it offensive when people act like this is a take-out window. Come up, make your demand and then get snippy when you either don't get what you ordered or it starts taking too long.

    1. I think you are wildly over-estimating the economic value of a DL doctorate in liberal arts.

    2. 99%? So you did some research on the topic? Because our own Rich Douglas did do that research and, as I recall, it was nowhere near 99% of employers who "don't value national accreditation."

    You're welcome!
     
  12. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I didn't get that the OP is disturbed by the school's religious affiliation. It sounds more like the OP has a problem with the rules students have to follow and maybe a potential concern about what will be taught in the courses. But, I guess you can always lie by omission in an online program and hope the school doesn't find out and expel you. It has happened before where a gay student was expelled because his sexual orientation was found out through his social media page.

    The OP has to be clear. Is this for a teaching position? If that's the case, then accreditation matters a lot.
     
  13. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    There's a big difference between getting a Bachelor's in Business or IT from a DEAC accredited school, where many employers won't have any issue, and getting a doctorate in the arts, which could serve little purpose other than academia, where national accreditation is still likely to be very limiting.

    NYC1808, I'm pretty sure what you want isn't out there, at least without going international.
     
  15. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    It's rather academic. HMU has very few doctoral graduates. The rest of the doctoral landscape at DEAC schools is limited to DBAs, EdDs and the occasional D.Min.

    The fact is that we don't know how a person with an HMU D.Arts. would do in the market of higher education. What we do know is that some schools require RA and some do not. And some go off and hire people with unaccredited doctorates.

    The fact that we're talking about non-business degrees, and thus no additional scrutiny with programmatic accreditation requirements for faculty, means that such an individual might have every chance in the world. Their biggest impediment to employment would likely not be the accreditation of HMU but rather the intense competition for these jobs with candidates from more well known programs.

    We also don't see a large number of graduates of foreign DL favorites well represented in U.S. higher ed either. So we can speculate as to the utility of an NA doctorate in higher ed but it's really not more than that.

    But to act as if an international or unknown DL based doctoral program is going to tip the balance? It may. But we don't know.
     
  16. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    The correct abbreviation for Doctor of Arts is DA.
     
  17. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

  18. FTFaculty

    FTFaculty Well-Known Member

    The only worthy schools are those that insist upon sexual intimacy prior to marriage as a requisite for admission.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 6, 2016
  19. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Unless at Harvard - or some other ultra-prestigious schools, where it's Art.D. - artium doctor in Latin.

    Most schools for mere mortals do, as Ted says, use D.A. - just like the District Attorney on Law and Order - and I bet that pays higher, on average. The men mostly seem to wear better suits, anyway. :smile: Women dress fine in either field. I notice stuff like that - I have little else to concern myself with.

    J.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 8, 2016

Share This Page