Bienville University

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by TheCaretaker, Jun 30, 2002.

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  1. TheCaretaker

    TheCaretaker New Member

    I have not observed any postings or discussions about Bienville in a long time. What is their status? Any new promising information? I am interested in Bienville U.
     
  2. Hille

    Hille Active Member

    I think you will find alot of information if you do a search on Bienville University. I looked at the web page which did not look to attractive in the accreditation department. I noted that you are from Trenton. Why not go to the College of New Jersey or utilize TESC since you are right there and could have better person to person contact then their usual student. Good Luck. Hille
     
  3. TheCaretaker

    TheCaretaker New Member

    I looked into TESC at one time and was not overly thrilled with the pricing. I'm not overly concern with accreditation at this point. My main concern is a not getting involved with a "diploma mill". Bienville, though not regionally accredited, doesn't appear to be a mill. Information is somewhat limited and not discussed much here.
     
  4. Veteran101

    Veteran101 New Member

    Other places

    Caretaker,
    Try looking into other places
    Charter Oak
    Excelsior (sp), the old Regent

    American Military Univerisity
    ( My old stomping grounds)

    or AIU where I am now.
    The pricing there is pretty stiff though.

    You have to watch the non accredited schools.
    They seem cheap but most will get ya with the lovely
    monthly fees of 180 - 300 a month.
    Lastly, not to mention the degrees do not carry much clout.

    Honestly, I feel that most of the RA,DETC crap is just that,
    crap! Mostly who can pad the coffers with the most cash wins the seal of approval, but that is the way it is.

    I agree with you on TESC. I lived in the Cherry Hill area for
    10 years before coming to Illinois.
    I went there in person and was really surprised.
    To keep it light, a not so wonderful experience

    Good Luck

    Dave
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    You get what you pay for. Stick with an accredited degree (otherwise why bother). There are so many very affordable options.

    Good luck!

    North
     
  6. TheCaretaker

    TheCaretaker New Member

    Veteran101, I agree with your statement regarding RA and DETC. I attended 3 RA schools and watch athletes given exams and may have received one or two myself. I'm not impressed, education is what you make it. If you can't do the job, all the degrees in the world will not allow you to keep it.
    I would like to hear from someone with knowledge of Bienville. Any Cajuns?
     
  7. irat

    irat New Member

    got to agree with north

    I have to agree with North.
    If you are really going to all the effort to get a degree, it ought to be from an accredited program. There are numerous one's that are fairly cheap.
    I am always curious. Anyone can study a subject on their own. A textbook really is one level of a curriculum. So one can just study a topic on their own. That may be a better bet than going for an unaccredited degree. So why turn to an unaccredited degree for personal fulfillment?
    On the other hand if one hopes to use the degree with a career goal, the utility of the accredited degree is most often superior to one unaccredited. In fact, I can't think of an instance when it wouldn't be more advantageous to have the accredited degree.
    All the best!
     
  8. TheCaretaker

    TheCaretaker New Member

    My reasons for pursuing a degree are not customary. I've been employed for 15 years and have job security. I earn 100K plus. I'm very comfortable. I also have credits from 3 RA schools. After my retirement I plan on being self-employed.
    I don't need much utility from a degree. Also, I'm a little
    anti-RA and (sort-of-like)conducting a one-man protest. State approval is sufficient because it validates. Also, it will be easier for to promote education(college) to my children if daddy can produce a diploma. However I do not want to support a scam. State approval, yes, Diploma mill, no!
     
  9. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Ah yes, USC, Stanford, MIT, etc. etc. Scams!:) RA is the U.S. standard. As has been pointed out if you want an education with out standards head to library. If you want a Degree pick an accredited University. If you want to promote degree mills rail against RA as unfair, limited, and too expensive. It isn't true, but that shouldn't stop you. I have an idea, start a message board where schools like Berne, CCU, Century, and K-W can be promoted without troublesome facts. Now there is an idea!
     
  10. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    LaSalle founder James (Thomas) Kirk (McPherson), imprisoned following his indictment on 18 counts of mail and wire fraud (and a plea bargain) is now out of prison, and has an involvement with Bienville.

    I have been wondering how Bienville managed to operate in Louisiana, which does require that unaccredited schools be on an approved accreditation path. The answer may be in Kirstin Hirst's recent discovery of incorporation papers filed (apparently by Kirk) for Bienville University of Mississippi.

    State approval (as done in California) clearly meets many people's needs (as long as they don't live in or travel to Oregon or a couple of other states and use their degree). But automatic state rubber stamping, no questions asked, as practiced in Wyoming, Alabama and, quite possibly we are about to learn, Mississippi is something else altogether.

    With all due respect, Mr. Caretaker, protesting regional accreditation by acquiring a degree from a non-wonderful school is a little like protesting speed limits by driving your Yugo on the wrong side of the interstate at night without headlights.
     
  11. TheCaretaker

    TheCaretaker New Member

    Mr. Bear, Thank you for your information regarding Bienville. This forum work well when a question can be answered. However, I noticed that answers come with a price. The price is the responses of some members. I understand that we all have opinions on the topic of distance learning. As long as we are informed, and the forum is informative, we should not be made to feel inadequate by our decisions to pursue further education. We are all adults who are responsible and understand that we live with the choices we make. I set out to discover new information pertaining to Bienville and Mr. Bear was helpful. If any other members could help it would be appreciated.
     

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