Distance phd with clout.

If no AACSB schools will hire a phd from NOVA, which I hear is a solid program, what DL phd will stand on its merits in the B&M world. In other words, if I want to lecture at say Washington State, which DL phd program should I choose..Oh that would be A DM or a phd business.

 

Picklehead?

And I thought I had a good user name.

Ok, on with the show...

 

what is in a name??

I don't know that there is absolutely no one from Nova U. teaching at an AACSB insitution. However, it would be logical for an AACSB program to prefer to hire graduates of AACSB colleges. There is a tendency for like programs to hire like.
Now what was pickleheads question?
Maybe you can elaborate the question a little.
Is the Nova U. program AACSB?
Did you do a college search to see where people who graduate from Nova end up and found "none"?
I know several superintendents who got their Ed.D from Nova U. It seemed to help their careers. However, I don't know that much about the business side of the programs. It would help educate me if you would share more.
All the best!

 

You've got this wrong!

I'm afraid it's time folks on both sides of the 'pond' realized that academic life has changed! Having a doctorate to teach in 'the best' universities or the best 'business schools' is not enough, whether you are in the US, UK or elsewhere. The focus now is on the individual's publications. A doctorate is taken for granted. You could have a PhD from Argosy, and other places that would not be readily recognized in the aacademic community BUT if you had substantial refereed publications and/or books (refereed journal publications count more than books these days0 then they are the things that will get you a teaching job in the top to middle institutions. If you wish to teach in a community college (or its equivalent) and there is nothing wrong with doing so at all, the I'm sure more reasoable RA doctorates will suffice.

Increasingly, central government, and other agencies, are funding institutions (quite wrongly in my judgement) on research output! Since it generally takes 8-10 years for university research in most disciplines (especially the social sciences such as education/teaching) to have any impact on the outside world this seema crazy way to fund higher education!

telfax

telfax

 

Glasgow DBA

Have a look at the totally non-resident Glasgow University DBA programme!

telfax

 

Uncertain as to how to address picklehead

First i should say glad to have you aboard. However i am not sure how to address you. Should we call you Mr. Pickle, or Mr. Head or Mr. Picklehead or Just picklehead?

Which ever i just want to say that your name is much more creative than mine Just Robert.

Great name

Looking forward to hearing more from you

Just plain Robert

 

Pickelhead - There are a handful of NSU grads in the 350 or so AACSB schools - but for the most part, they tend to teach at the other 900 or so schools with business programs that aren't AACSB.

The point isn't that NSU degrees are useless - they work fine for many school district personnel, profs at middle tier schools, mid-career professionals, etc. I personally have been well served with my DBA from NSU. But realize there is a big difference between a DL PhD/DBA and a full-time program. The exposure to research and connections you make in 5-6 years of full-time study make a world of difference.

As another poster has mentioned - one's publication record is a big concern in university work. People coming out of full-time programs often have a network of connections - to their profs and fellow students - that can help launch a research career. That, plus the additional rigor in study makes it natural for such folks to become researchers. If you attend a school were none of the faculty publish in top journals - it is pretty likely the apple won't fall far from the tree (e.g. it isn't likely you'll publish there either). Is this due to bias or quality of work? Good question. Blind peer review should suggest it is the latter.

I will disagree with one point made elsewhere - at least in business, graduating with a doctorate from a non-AACSB school has lifelong implications. A number of business schools have gone to saying things "a PhD or DBA from AACSB accredited school". Other say "must hold a PhD or DBA from a full-time program".

As for adjunct teaching or full-time work at a smaller college or university - an NSU degree (particulary in high demand areas like business and computer science) may work just fine. If you want to work full-time at a well regarded state school, NSU probably isn't the ticket, particularly not for a tenure track position. The same can be said for all the other DL PhD programs we talk about here - Capella, Argosy, Union, etc.

Regards - Andy

 

Re: what is in a name??

From what I can tell, Nova has a great reputation in the world of education. In B-school Academia, there is a different story. Not that Nova is not good, but I can tell you that none the AACSB Schools in the St. Louis area will hire a non-AACSB grad. This is their policies.

 

publish or perish

I guess the whole issue comes down to horses for courses! (pardon the pun).
If you want to be a college faculty member, then you need to decide whether it is at a resarch facility which has students or a teaching college which does some research. Either will require that one publishes.
So publish as often as one can.
It sounds like picklehead would like to work at a college/university where the primary route to tenure is through publishing. Clearly that requires a degree focused on research and getting published, prior to hire. It also requires getting the stamp of approval with the right initials (AASCB?).
If one were looking at an institution more devoted to teaching, like a two year college. One would still need to have some publishing goals, but could concentrate on the teaching aspect. However, you still need the right stamp of authority. It could be research on the right subject for that school or it could be having studied under the right person.
One of my local teaching schools was looking for a faculty member in the counseling program. While there were many qualified candidates, they wanted someone with a teaching and published background in group work. Since the rest of the faculty did individual stuff. Even though they are a "teaching" school, they still want a good published portfolio. They ended up hiring the candidate with the most publications, even though she had done little actual group work.
All the best!

 

Re: You've got this wrong!

I agree with this completely. From some of my experience it is what is produced that counts as much or more than where. And even who did the candidate study under.

Brad