Malaysia Wants You

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Kizmet, Mar 21, 2016.

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  2. nyvrem

    nyvrem Active Member

    Question is - Do you want Malaysia ?

    1,000 trainee doctors quit due to poor English, report says | Malaysia | Malay Mail Online

    says alot about the standard of education
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It would have said more about it if they'd passed anyway.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    When I saw the title of the thread I thought, "Man, that Interpol is good."
     
  5. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Actually, I was going for that Uncle Sam thing.
     
  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    There are good reasons why people might, indeed. It seems (to me, at least) people working at Malaysian universities generally possess English skills of a much higher standard than those medical students who quit. English-language DL programs abound in Malaysia, particularly business and IT. Fees are well below North American levels. I note some Australian schools have set up shop here, too. And yes, being a largely Muslim country will help attract students from abroad who share that faith.

    Maybe not so much. Perhaps it says more about the language abilities of a large number of students. We have plenty of students here in Canada, who are made to study French in school for years, but never achieve any proficiency worth talking about. I'm sure the US must have a similar phenomenon with a number of Anglo students, who are made to take Spanish in school and fail to do well.

    I've been looking at Malaysian schools periodically for at least 10 years. I think the country has a good present and great future in DL.

    J.
     
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  7. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Historically DI has been a very US-centric board both in terms of the bulk of the schools discussed and also the membership. Over recent years though this has begun to change. It's changing in that more Americans are looking abroad for degrees but also more non-US people are visiting DI looking for non-US schools. A large factor is simply the cost. So, Do you want Malaysia? For many people in the world the answer is yes.
     
  8. expat_eric

    expat_eric New Member

    I just have to ask. Those of you pro-Malaysia education - have you actually been to Malaysia or hired Malaysians? I have lived and work in and around Malaysia and think I would send my kids to university almost any where except Malaysia. There are exceptions such as the Petronas university. Even Malaysians study in Australia, Singapore or the UK if they can afford it.

    My advice is book a ticket and visit before you spend your time and money on a Malaysian degree.
     
  9. nyvrem

    nyvrem Active Member

    You scared Najib later do 'magic' and make your degree disappear ?

    =X
     
  10. expat_eric

    expat_eric New Member

    I have no idea what you mean by this reply. I am sorry if I offended.

    Perhaps I stated it too strongly but as this board is generally North American centric, I can't think of a single good reason for an American to get a degree from Malaysia. It would be difficult to get them accepted by both schools and employers in general. The cost savings is just not worth it...if there is any. I have looked into one of the Australian universities that have a campus in Malaysia. They are just not that much cheaper than what can be gotten from an American university.
     
  11. nyvrem

    nyvrem Active Member

    oh, guess you dont really follow the on-goings of malaysian politics.

    anyway, im not anti malaysia or what not. i live in singapore, it's 20mins away. i drive down to malaysia every month or so to eat and shop. most of us who live in the region know about the amount of corruption and inefficiency malayisa has. im very skeptical of any university DL offerings malaysia has, it's accreditation and how well it would be accepted by companies elsewhere. if there are people (be it US or elsewhere) looking for a cheap alternative to a degree, i would just show them UniSA or U of London programs. at least they have years of experience.
     
  12. expat_eric

    expat_eric New Member

    I did not make the connection. You were referring to the president in the middle of this big stink over his loans and gifts from Saudi and such. I don't normally pay too close attention honestly. I am in the other side of Malaysia and spend quite a bit of time in Sarawak and Sabah. I avoid KL like the plague if I can.

    I agree with you about sending them to UNISA or University of London. They are much better alternatives.
     
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Of course we haven't. It's called distance education precisely because you DON'T have to go to Malaysia, Australia etc. - or South Africa, whose schools have many fans here at DI. BTW - I know some ex-pat South Africans here (Canada) who tell me how bad things were there and how glad they are to be out. OK - but that has nothing to do with the quality of DL schools in South Africa.

    Agreed - Petronas U. is a very high-ranking school. They're well-focused in chosen areas. Bit of info here for those who haven't heard of the school before:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universiti_Teknologi_Petronas

    I feel some other schools in Malaysia, e.g. Open U. of Malaysia, Wawasan, Universiti Sains Malaysia for starters - offer relative bargains in DL. A couple of schools in the Cyberjaya are pretty good for IT, too. And again, if many people there lack perfect English, I'm far from amazed or disappointed in their education system. I regret that I don't know Malay, although I know I wouldn't need it to take distance courses from Malaysia. I also read that Sabah and Sarawak, where you spend most of your time, may be more English-language-friendly:

    "English may take precedence over Malay in certain official contexts as provided for by the National Language Act, especially in the states of Sabah and Sarawak, where it may be the official working language." - from the Wiki.

    IIRC, there are also good distance education opportunities offered by India, Ukraine and Baltimore MD. I've met very nice people from all three places - but I wouldn't want to live in any of them. That fact would not influence my choice of distance education, though. :smile: Distance ed. is perfect for people who are "home bodies."

    J
     
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  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    In fact, there is a lot of unrest on the campuses across South Africa now with protests, large demonstrations, walk-outs, etc. and yet those schools continue to be held in high regard.
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Kizmet: In fact, there is a lot of unrest on the campuses across South Africa now with protests, large demonstrations, walk-outs, etc. and yet those schools continue to be held in high regard.

    Johann: There have been riots etc. on university campuses for hundreds of years. Well over six hundred years ago, in 1355, Oxford had a particularly nasty one, with many lives lost.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Scholastica_Day_riot The school's reputation and quality have survived.

    U.S. has had its share of campus violence - e.g. remember Kent State? My point - injury, loss of life etc. are tragic things - but good learning institutions generally outlive such events.

    J.
     
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  16. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

    Have any of our members currently enrolled in South Africa seen a disruption of their studies due to the protests?
     
  17. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I'd like to meet this Najib character.:scratchchin:
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  20. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I've wanted to learn Bahasa Malayu (the Malay language) ever since I took a trip to Malaysia several years ago. Beautiful language. Interesting place. You have a large mix of races, religions and ethnicities all occupying the same space, living on the same street, using the same businesses and transportation services, but with relatively little familial and social intermingling. It's kind of like the internet in that sense. Everyone is there, passing by and overlapping each other across the popular platforms, but mostly sticking to their own kind.

    I passed by the building several times on my trip. It's quite the impressive site- equal parts simple, gaudy, obnoxious and serene.

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    I met a lot of Malays who said they were students there. It seemed to have a very good reputation.
     
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