HELP - COSC will not accept 43 military credits!

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  1. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I just received my evaluation from COSC. I thought I had about 95-100 credits. They told me that I have only 60 credits. After just a couple of questions I realized that they were not accepting any of my credits from the military.
    I was told that my transcript lists all the credits but when ACE evaluated the schools and when I went to the schools were different time frames. Example- I went through the 91A school (which was 35G) from July 1990 to May 1991. The ACE evaluation dates for credit are December 1991 to present or something like that. I kind of went blank when I realized that I just lost 43 credits because ACE changed the eval dates.
    Can anyone offer any suggestions? This changes my graduation date from early 2003 to.....never!
    It does not make sense that the class I went through and the class 6 months later could vary that much. When I checked the credits a year ago, everything was fine.
    HELP!
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This sounds pretty normal. I used to use the ACE guides quite a it when I was an education specialist in the Air Force. They're very specific about credit recommendations by attendance dates. This is because military training courses can change drastically over time; what was once creditable may not be, or vice versa. Or the recommended amount of credit--or even in which areas and at what levels--could change.

    When you completed your courses is vital to determining the amount of credit recommended by ACE.

    Try contacting ACE and asking for their assistance. If your course was creditable at some point, it may have also been creditable when you took it. (Unless ACE never evaluated the previous version of the course, of course. And a horse is a horse of course....) But the current version of the ACE guide should also have any recommendations made for the course when you took it.

    You can also consider taking examinations in the areas where you anticipated receiving credit. Longer and more expensive, sure, but it's one way of establishing your credits.
     
  3. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    will all schools follow the same eval method?
     
  4. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Since COSC allows unlimited credit via CLEP/DANTES testing, it might be just as easy to plan out a degree via this method.
     
  5. wfready

    wfready New Member

    Randell1234,

    That stinks! I looked at your MOS (91a medical equipment repairer). Alot of credits towards electronics. What were you going to do at COSC? Concentration in Engineering studies perhaps? If not, just CLEP and DSST your way to a degree. If you do need those electronics credits, argue with them. It worked for me at Excelsior. They wouldn't give me credit for my MOS (Marine Corps MOS 6433 avionics tech). Because ACE said that I needed to give them my MATMEP (training record) which was ditched a while ago. I told them that as far as promotions are concerned, technical proficiency is a must in your field of work (or something to that extent). I was completely suprised when I got a reply from the advisors saying, "We agree, Mr. Ready. We will award your MOS credit". So, I got credit for A school and MOS (30 credits I believe..).

    If that doesn't work. Maybe you should email ACE and ask them what makes them think your rate doesnt rate credit at the time of your schooling ANYMORE (Personally, I have never heard of them TAKING BACK credit recommedations [I guess it happens.. they must make mistakes sometimes..]).

    Have you considered the other two assessment schools? TESC has a EET concentration in their BSAST program (as well as a MET). Excelsior has a BST in Electromechanical Technology (I was considering this one Sort of a mixture of electronics and mechanical technology). Old Dominion University had a BSET in General Engineering Technology w/ minor in Engineering Management (This is part of the Navy College rating partners program, but I am a Marine and they took my credit. I don't know about TESC but Excelsior and ODU (so far) seem to be willing to work around problems. If you explain your story (that is IF they do not accept your credit). Perhaps they will give you the credit (after all it IS up to them. They don't have to follow ACE's evals).

    Good luck! I hope this helps you.

    Best Regards

    Bill
     
  6. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    My concentration was/is Individualized Study - Information Systems and Office Management. The other MOS I had was 75Z. The 91A credits were electives. 75Z credits were toward office management.

    I looked at Excelsior and TESC but I Excelsior would require 12 credits in higher math and 6 or 9 credits more in science. Not really what I wanted to do.

    TESC, well I just never felt comfortable talking to them.
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    COSC offers portfolio credit?

    I'm using this existing thread to ask if it's been mentioned before that COSC will award credit by portfolio. I thought only TESC of the Big Three did it. I also notice that COSC is conducting courses via DL, not just testing and asssessing prior learning.
     
  8. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    Re: COSC offers portfolio credit?

    It has been mentioned before - often, I expect. See the threads, "BA in 4 Weeks" submitted March 2001 and "Business degree in 4 Weeks", submitted April 2001, to this board. These articles were derived from my posts to AED from 1997 - 1999. I'm choked you didn't read them, Rich.

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    "WHICH OF THE THREE COLLEGES SHOULD I CHOOSE?

    A number of factors should be considered before that decision is made.

    . . .

    2. Both COSC and TESC evaluate portfolio credit. Excelsior accepts portfolio credit but does not evaluate it, that is done elsewhere. "

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  9. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    According to Excelsior catalog for the BSLS only one math course is required for quantitative reasoning and can be statistics or "any college math course". Re science courses they do not need to be math based - one can take courses such as oceanography, geology, earth science, and weather.

    I tried to take an upper lever cosmology class at CSUDH (for my Regents/Excelsior degree) but I found it was always oversubscribed - why? All CSUDH bachelor degrees required (in 1992) an upper level science class (Integrative studies in natural science), so many students in non technical degree programs wanted to take this non-math based course.
     
  10. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Thanks for the advice Ian. I was looking at the BSin Technology Degree. I have since decided to enroll in COSC.

    It turns out the Army made a mistake and did not list my credits properly on my transcipt. I contacted the Army and was able to get 23 credits (non in upper division).

    I hope to complete my BS by the end of the year.
     

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