Class Action against U of Phoenix seeks plaintiffs

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  1. warguns

    warguns Member

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    The lawsuit alleges the recruiters for the college promised prospective students that the credits earned at the school would transfer to comparable programs at schools such as California State University.

    It also alleges the university’s admissions specialists used aggressive, deceptive, misleading and fraudulent tactics to persuade students to enroll.

    According to Paredes’ lawsuit, many students were unable to finish their studies and many more who graduated still could not find jobs -- and regardless of the outcome, students were stuck with large amounts of debt.
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Right now, this is about an attorney hoping to cash in. If the class gets certified and the action moves forward, then we'll have something to look at.
     
  3. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Well, the credits do transfer to comparable programs at other schools. I've seen people with UofP credits successfully transfer them to PennState, Syracuse University and a few SUNY schools.

    Transferring business credits can get a bit murky because AACSB limits the number of transfer credits from non-AACSB programs. So, that could be a reasonable disappointment if someone just assumed that all RA credits transfer to RA schools. But if we're suing admissions reps for saying that school credits should transfer to comparable programs at other schools then the entire higher ed industry is about to be flipped completely upside down.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

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  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Look at the big brain on Brett!
     
  6. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Say it ain't so!! :wink:
     
  7. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    To prove a point to someone, I once emailed several of the top public universities in the U.S. Among the ones that responded, only one specifically said that University of Phoenix courses rarely transfer. Most of them said that comparable courses from all regionally accredited schools are accepted if they fit into the degree program. A couple of them specifically said that they do accept credits from University of Phoenix.

    Texas A&M has a website you can go to in order to see how credits from other schools have previously transferred. They have accepted credits from University of Phoenix. I didn't check all of the course prefixes, but they accepted English Comp as recently as 2014.
    https://compass-ssb.tamu.edu/pls/PROD/bwxkwtes.P_TransEquivMain
     
  8. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    There's really no good reason not to accept English Comp from a regionally accredited school. In fact, there's really no good reason not to accept English Comp CLEP or an ACE recommended equivalent.

    It's not like the late Maya Angelou was teaching freshmen how to write a form letter. Courses like English comp are typically taught by a pool of adjuncts. Not that there's anything wrong with an adjunct, mind you.

    But at the UofS all of the professors in the English department had doctorates. Then there was this little room that about three or four adjuncts shared. The professors taught lit courses. The adjunct instructors taught English Comp, Public Speaking and a few other miscellaneous classes that everyone had to take and no one wanted to teach.

    English Comp isn't, in my mind, a typical 100 level course. It's the school basically saying "we've done enough" to ensure that their students are capable of writing a coherent sentence. It's a class that, more and more, I am hearing only has an instructor in name only with assignments being submitted electronically and basically checked by software. The "instructor" is really just making the preliminary grades from software packages into permanent grades.

    Maybe this isn't as typical as it's been presented to me. But I can tell you that my Comp 1 course was pretty much a joke. A retired school principal (with an Ed.D.) sat in a chair in the center of the room while we all tapped away on computers. The rule was you had to write out the assignment, print it out, turn it in and leave. This meant that if you could type quickly (and didn't spend time talking to everyone) you could be in and out in 20 minutes. There wasn't really any instruction and our grades were largely based on formatting (spacing, indentation etc) rather than content or cogency. In fact, punctuation wasn't even a major priority.

    It's one of those courses that could probably be replaced by a self-paced, unsupervised essay during one's first semester.

    Believe it or not, I actually have a point.

    If a school refused to transfer English Comp 1 from the University of Phoenix, then they are full of the stuff that makes the grass grow. Because I would bet money on that school also utilizing no more than 50% of their hindquarters in "teaching" the same course.

    That said, I get why you can't transfer half of your business courses from Patten into Harvard.

    Perhaps this is an opportunity to really explore the utility and future liberal art and GenEd requirements.
     
  9. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    By the way, I'm aware of the irony of my questionable grammatical choices in the last post.
     

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