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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Levicoff View Post
    It is amusing, though, that Doom could not get onto DI. Somehow, everyone else manages to join our happy band. Since Doom couldn’t get his act together to join us, he ended up making an ass of himself on his own blog instead of on DI. Now, that’s really funny.
    People register to join DegreeInfo all the time and, to my knowledge, that component of the site is working properly. It's possible that he's having difficulty because he was previously banned but, other than spammers, we haven't been banning people much at all. I would invite this ummm-person to contact us directly so that any registration problems can be resolved. It might be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Levicoff View Post
    A few truths . . .

    First, bloggers are people who can’t be published elsewhere or who have lived out their usefulness in the writer’s marketplace. No one gives a crap about what they have to say except for others who don’t have a life. No exception.

    (If any of you are Doonesbury followers, remember when Rick Redfern was “retired” by the Washington Post and became a blogger? Suddenly he was no longer given the time of day by people of any importance. That’s a realistic picture of the world of blogging. Yes, there will always be mindless dolts who get their rocks off bhy reading – and writing – blogs, but they are insignificant twits. Yeah, all of them.)

    Second, people who write or post anonymously have zero credibility. Zero. Who am I to say that? I’m Steve Levicoff, and anyone who wants to know anything about me can find out everything they want to know with a little bit of research. That’s why John Bear, Rich Douglas, and even Jimmy Clifton, ad infinitum, will always have more credibility than people who post anonymously.

    There are a few exceptions to the above principle. Neuhaus, for example, has established his credibility by the quality of his posts, his obvious knowledge of and experience in the HRD field, and the disclosure of his credentials. And frankly, I don’t blame those who are credible for keeping the details of their identity to themselves – there are so many whack jobs out there (think the DLT gang) who would create havoc in your life because they don’t have lives of their own. (Don’t get me wrong, I think the DLT gang is hysterically funny sometimes, but what they did to George Gollin and Uncle Janko alone should be a crime.)

    Finally, I can’t say that I see credibility in anyone who lists their degrees in a sig line but does not indicate the institutional source of those degrees. By full name of the institution, not some idiotic abbreviation with which few would be familiar. Granted, most people around here know what TESC is, but that’s in-house language. Unless you graduated Oxon or Cantab (abbreviations are more common in Europe than in the U.S.), avoid the abbreviations. The average reader will not be familiar with TUI, SNHU, WNMU, or FHSU (especially TUI, which generally means Touro today, but at one time meant Union).

    Not to mention the idiots who write an inquiry post about a school and use an abbreviation that no one has heard of, neglects to post the URL for the school’s web site, and expects that people will be intimately familiar with every piss-ant program out there.

    Well, so much for my “blog.” I could tell you about how I think online universities and degrees in leadership are bullshit, but I don’t want to open those cans of worms. Oooooops, I just did, didn’t I?
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    P.S. Why, golly, gee. I just noticed that I now have over 400 posts!!! Okay, I realize that doesn't compare with those of you with over 10,000 posts. But I do have a life.
    There is limited space to list things in one's signature, but I have mentioned the colleges I've attended many times. There are some people who don't even have a signature. I maintain anonymity online because of the nature of the field in which I am trying to enter. Some people say so many stupid things, they should be anonymous.

    Obviously, Professor Doom doesn't understand the purpose of this website. The degrees are listed in signatures for informational purposes. I've had several people ask me about my PhD program (which is not online by the way).
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    Agree With Sanantone

    Sanantone is right. Degree listings in signature lines are for informational purposes on this site. In addition, if someone has earned a degree they have the right to display it or mention it and not hide it. Professor Doom should not get uptight about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BusinessManIT View Post
    Sanantone is right. Degree listings in signature lines are for informational purposes on this site. In addition, if someone has earned a degree they have the right to display it or mention it and not hide it. Professor Doom should not get uptight about this.
    On the other forum, where members are allowed more characters, I've included the cost and time it took to complete my master's. That has also garnered interest from several people who didn't know about this option.

    For employers to discriminate against an online degree, they have to first know it was earned online. Not that I try to hide it, but no one has ever suspected that I earned my master's online because it came from a school in the same state. Even though my work history makes it quite clear that I've been in Texas the whole time, no one has ever asked me if I earned my TESC degree online. One HR person assumed that I was from New Jersey. If you go to TESC's website, it's easy to tell that it's a primarily online school, but most people have never heard of it. All they see is Thomas Edison State College, and that's good enough for them.
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    Professor Doom just needs to understand that when he paints online education with a broad brush and speaks of vitas which include them finding their way to dumpsters, he's spitting at schools like: Harvard, Stanford, Cornell , UC Berkeley, Columbia, Georgia Tech, Johns Hopkins, Duke, Carnegie Melon, Georgetown, Purdue, Cambridge, U of London, London School of Economics , Illinois, Indiana, North Carolina, North Carolina State, NYU, USC , UCLA, Rutgers , Pace, Penn State, Ohio State, Temple, George Washington, Florida, Florida State, South Florida, Colorado State , Arizona, Arizona State, Virginia Tech, Boston University , Auburn, UMass, Nebraska, Syracuse, Creighton , Georgia, Georgia Southern, Mississippi, Mississippi State, UW-Whitewater, Old Dominion, Kansas State, Wichita State, Emporia State, Fort Hays State, Nevada-Reno, UNLV, Iowa, Houston, Drexel , Michigan State, Manchester, Liverpool, Edinburgh Biz School, Aston, UNISA, South Dakota State, UNC-Greensboro, St. Johns, Eastern Kentucky , Western Kentucky, Wright State, Ball State, TESC, WTAM, UTD, etc. etc. etc.

    Universities, elite and lower-tier and everything in between have spoken: for a motivated student, online is a legitimate way to obtain an education . By the way, I wish to maintain my anonymity, but every university I've attended as well as the university where I teach is in that list.
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    Because this site is primarily focused on DL, and because most people here are earning degrees while continuing their work, I only list those degrees I earned nontraditionally while simultaneously working. Oh, right. That would be all of them.

    I began advising working students on nontraditional higher education when I was an education specialist in the Air Force in the late 1970s. That's 37 years ago. I earned my first degree (an associate's from Regents) in 1979 and my latest degree very recently, and a PhD specializing in this very field along the way. I don't know who this guy is, but I'm sure he's welcome to post here if he has a concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTFaculty View Post
    Professor Doom just needs to understand that when he paints online education with a broad brush and speaks of vitas which include them finding their way to dumpsters, he's spitting at schools like: Harvard, Stanford, Cornell , UC Berkeley, Columbia, Georgia Tech, Johns Hopkins, Duke, Carnegie Melon, Georgetown, Purdue, Cambridge, U of London, London School of Economics , Illinois, Indiana, North Carolina, North Carolina State, NYU, USC , UCLA, Rutgers , Pace, Penn State, Ohio State, Temple, George Washington, Florida, Florida State, South Florida, Colorado State , Arizona, Arizona State, Virginia Tech, Boston University , Auburn, UMass, Nebraska, Syracuse, Creighton , Georgia, Georgia Southern, Mississippi, Mississippi State, UW-Whitewater, Old Dominion, Kansas State, Wichita State, Emporia State, Fort Hays State, Nevada-Reno, UNLV, Iowa, Houston, Drexel , Michigan State, Manchester, Liverpool, Edinburgh Biz School, Aston, UNISA, South Dakota State, UNC-Greensboro, St. Johns, Eastern Kentucky , Western Kentucky, Wright State, Ball State, TESC, WTAM, UTD, etc. etc. etc.

    Universities, elite and lower-tier and everything in between have spoken: for a motivated student, online is a legitimate way to obtain an education. By the way, I wish to maintain my anonymity, but every university I've attended as well as the university where I teach is in that list.
    I list the one degree I'm earning traditionally to show that people can go from nontraditional programs to a traditional program. There was an article I came across a couple of years ago where HR professionals admitted that it is becoming very difficult to tell when a degree was earned online because many traditional universities are offering online programs. When one earns a degree online at one of the Penn State schools, there is nothing on the degree or transcript that denotes that the degree was earned online. People don't earn their degrees from Penn State World Campus; they earn their degrees from one of the Penn State System's brick and mortar schools.
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    I had thought of listing a few responses to Professor Doom's posting. First and foremost, my objective this morning was to counter his/her anecdotal evidence ("every interview committee I've been on...") with the numerous links we previously posted to individuals, some at very well respected institutions, who have tenure track positions despite having degrees from for-profit schools.

    But, at the end of the day, all of that information is here to be found.

    I'm not willing to engage in a back-and-forth with Professor Doom where I write on this forum and s/he replies on a personal blog. If the professor wishes to discuss with us I think we would all enjoy the exchange. If not, then I suggest we just let this thread die and let the good Professor go back to ranting about other topics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuhaus View Post
    I had thought of listing a few responses to Professor Doom's posting. First and foremost, my objective this morning was to counter his/her anecdotal evidence ("every interview committee I've been on...") with the numerous links we previously posted to individuals, some at very well respected institutions, who have tenure track positions despite having degrees from for-profit schools.

    But, at the end of the day, all of that information is here to be found.

    I'm not willing to engage in a back-and-forth with Professor Doom where I write on this forum and s/he replies on a personal blog. If the professor wishes to discuss with us I think we would all enjoy the exchange. If not, then I suggest we just let this thread die and let the good Professor go back to ranting about other topics.
    Well said mate, well said.
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    I found him!

    I think I found him. Don't know if it's the same guy or not. Doesn't seem to have the best teaching style. I have reason to believe he got his PhD for one reason...to study doom, and to exact his wrath and revenge on others. lol.
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    "You know, it's amazing how many super villains have advanced degrees. Graduate schools should do a better job of screening those people out."

    -- Sheldon Cooper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Douglas View Post
    "You know, it's amazing how many super villains have advanced degrees. Graduate schools should do a better job of screening those people out."

    -- Sheldon Cooper
    Hahahaha. Gotta love Sheldon and Big Bang. Great quote!
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