Ames Christian University

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  1. BLD

    BLD New Member

    Haven't seen this school mentioned here so I thought I would post it for those interested. They offer a Bachelor of Christian Arts and a Master of Liberal Arts. Non-Accredited and state it openly.

    Ames Christian University
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Gosh. I don't see them listed among Florida's independent religious colleges and universities listed here: http://www.firn.edu/doe/bin00073/relig.htm .

    Golly, I don't see them listed among the regular independent colleges and universities listed here: http://www.firn.edu/doe/bin00073/college1.htm .

    Of course, that's because they're authorized to operate under a religious exemption found here: http://www.firn.edu/doe/cie/statute.htm#246084 . The state doesn't license the school; they allow the school to operate if it is issuing religious degrees only. But....

    Great Caesar's Ghost! The statute also requires: "The titles of degrees issued by the college must include a religious modifier which must immediately precede, or be included within, any of the following titles: Associate in Arts, Associate in Science, Bachelor of Arts, Bachelor of Science, Master of Arts, Master of Science, and Doctor of Philosophy. The religious modifier must be placed on the title line of the degree." Of course, this isn't the case with Ames, whose master's degree is a Master of Liberal Arts. I guess the state didn't anticipate that one. Conceivably, the school could also issue a Master of Engineering, if the theology and the mathematics worked out. :rolleyes:

    Gee whiz, I see a link on their site for their Faculty, and I see them described as "appropriately qualified to teach in their disciplines, diverse in their educational backgrounds, and committed to academic excellence." But I don't see anyone's name or qualifications. However, there is an entire page dedicated to faculty compensation: http://www.ameschristian.org/Academics/Faculty/Faculty_FAQ/faculty_faq.html

    Jeepers, I when I look for anything on accreditation, I find this: "We are in the process of pursuing final and full accreditation as a distance learning institution." Final? Anyway, this statement is meaningless.

    Because this is all perfectly legal, it is difficult to distinguish such schools from degree mills, if a distinction is to be made.
     
  3. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    all perfectly legal

    Rich

    Unless there is a compelling argument to change my mind I would vote right now for a bill ,and I would call all my friends and cajole them to likewise do, to put an end to the religious exemption. Not being a constitutional expert, I don't know if that document would really render void the passing of such a law. But at this point I would be willing to try it. I see less harm than good in such a notion.
     
  4. Howard

    Howard New Member

    Such a bill would help erradicate undesirable schools, however, I think you have the separation of church and state problem. A little thing in the constitution.
     

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