Cal University

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  1. coolride

    coolride New Member

    Does anyone here know anything about Cal University? Would you recommend their DBA program? Hear anything good or bad about them?
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    The school name you use is vague. There is no such entity as "Cal University." There is the University of California, which is colloquially referred to as "Cal," but never "Cal University."

    Perhaps you could provide a url for the school you're talking about?
     
  3. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

  4. coolride

    coolride New Member

  5. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I don't have any direct experience with California InterContinental University; however, the institution itself is accredited by DETC. While DETC degree is fine other others, but to me I feel that some discriminate against it. Therefore, I don't know why would one wants to limited himself or herself by obtaining an DETC degree.
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    So it is. A bit misleading, no? Oh, gee. Let me just answer: YES.
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I see they offer the doctorate (DBA). How many faculty with that degree? That would be.....none.

    They have some faculty. Most of them have doctoral degrees. But relevant to awarding a DBA? Let's see...

    One DM from UoP. Nope. (A DM doesn't cover the scope a doctorate in business does, just as a master's in management isn't an MBA.)

    A Ph.D. in Org Psych (from Alliant). Nope. Organizational behavior is an issue for DBAs, but it in no way covers the scope of a DBA.

    A Ph.D. in Org Consulting. Another Ph.D. in Org Psych. And thaaaaaaaaaaaaat's about it. The rest of the doctorate-holding faculty don't have terminal degrees related to business administration, even though most have terminal degrees. And again, none of them have the qualification needed to supervise a DBA program. Not a single DBA. Not a single Ph.D. in business. Yes, some with related degrees, but who's managing it overall? You can't (legitimately) award a DBA with no one on your faculty with a doctorate in business.

    Gee, I wonder how this could happen?
     
  8. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    I agree, they seem to offer several DBA specializations but the faculty seems to have only "expertise" in human behavior.

    The other important issues is that the faculty who can supervise doesn't seem to have any published research. I checked 3 faculty members and no publications came out of google scholar

    Alek Hagigi - Google Scholar
    Donna DiMatteo - Google Scholar
    Mary E. Davis - Google Scholar


    This means that a blind will be guiding another blind. One might argue that a DETC DBA is a lot cheaper than a RA DBA but I think you get what you pay for. As this DETC school is probably paying peanuts to faculty, they can only attract faculty who barely qualify but are not the most qualified to supervise research.
     
  9. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    California Intercontinental University sometimes shortens its name to Cal University.
     
  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yes. That was established later in the thread. In my opinion, it is ungracefully deceiving. Kind of like the University of Atlanta being operated from another state. Or California Western University picking up that moniker from a school that changed its name. Or the University of Management and Technology having a Ph.D. in Project Management approved by the PMI while simultaneously denying they were creating one. Or the Canadian School of Management issuing degrees from an unrecognized university out its backdoor. Or Andrew Jackson and Columbia Southern claiming fake accreditation right up until the day they received recognized accreditation.

    I'm sure there's a common theme there somewhere.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    While I'm not going to argue with the main thrust of your argument, this one is not so clearcut when you consider that sixty-odd years ago Wake Forest University moved out of Wake Forest to Winston-Salem, 100 miles away, and no one says boo about it.
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Okay. But the University of "Atlanta" operated from an entirely different state. And it did so as an unaccredited school known for some terrible behavior.

    Here's another one: The "College Board" and the Educational Testing Service like to cite "Princeton, New Jersey" as their location. Gee, I wonder why? But in reality, they're located in nearby Lawrence Township. But the ETS has a long history of deception, just like....oh, never mind.
     
  13. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    I would cut ETS some slack here. In New Jersey, postal service areas (i.e. zip codes) don't necessarily coincide with local township boundaries. So while ETS is politically in Lawrence Township (maybe a quarter mile from the Princeton Township line), they are in fact within a Princeton zip code, and they officially do have a Princeton mailing address. So do other parts of northern Lawrence Township.

    The US Postal Service confirms that the "preferred city name" for the ETS campus is "Princeton, NJ". There is a separate "Lawrence Township, NJ" post office and zip code, but they don't deliver to ETS or its neighbors.
     
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