University of Northwest Europe - Another "Hmph?"

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Just wondering what the experts think. Looks to me like a case of no street-cred, just "frontin' like it's all that." Here it is: http://unorthwest.eu/

    Pro:

    (1) Wonderful new mantra: "Integration Science"
    (2) Elaborate and quite pretty website
    (2) Fancy catalogue - interesting, too.
    (3) Some "associations" with known good schools, e.g. Karnataka State U., India

    Con:

    (1) Degrees "validated" by U. Azteca. Dutch-located school offers degrees validated by a private non-mainstream Mexican school. How can these degrees be of anything but the highest standing. :jester: Remember the Uni of Wales debacle -and UoW was a 'way better school than Azteca!

    (2) Claims to be on a CHEA committee and on a CHEA list of international bodies - but NOT a CHEA-recognized accreditor.

    (3) Claims it's getting ASIC accreditation. ASIC is a UK enterprise, marketing itself as an international "accreditor." It was conceived originally to monitor British (mostly non-degree-granting) schools that enrolled foreign students. Its job was to make sure they were "real" schools & classes and there no immigration-related issues. It had no powers of academic oversight. ASIC morphed into its present role and appears very active in Asia. By some miraculous transformation, it now views itself as an academic accreditor. The only U.S. school I've seen with ASIC "accreditation" is University of Atlanta, that let its DETC accreditation expire and went with ASIC - recognized neither by CHEA nor USDoE.

    This is from the UNWE website:

    "External Quality Assurance at the University of Northwest Europe is provided through international accreditation and accreditation reviews. The University has formally applied in April 2013 for institutional accreditation to the Accreditation Service for International Colleges ASIC in the UK inorder to demonstrate the commitment to quality and continuous improvement, whereby, accreditation is holistic, encompassing institutions in their entirety rather than particular courses, programs or qualifications. ASIC is an approved accrediting body for the purposes of compliance by the UK Border Agency (UKBA) and is a member of the British Quality Foundation (BQF), sits on the
    Quality Standards Group of UK NARIC, and is one of a number of international accrediting bodies listed in the international directory by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) in the U.S., and is a member of the CHEA International Quality Group (CIQG). "

    As I see it, UNWE looks like another sure route to "legal" degrees of no standing whatsoever. That's no standing anywhere, and possibly not legal in places like Oregon or Texas.

    What do you think, experts?

    Johann
     
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  2. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    It is not fair to suggest that UNE relies entirely on validation by Universidad Azteca, a private non-mainstream Mexican school.

    In fact, UNE programs are also validated by the Universidad Central de Nicaragua, a private non-mainstream Central American school.
     
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    A two-fer, then. Good observation, CalDog! If there's doubt about a non-mainstream school, get two other non-mainstream schools a continent away to vouch for it. It's kind of like the old proverb - when a woman has to tell you she's a lady, (or worse, get two burly foreigners to tell you, as in this case) she probably isn't.

    That and ASIC "accreditation" sews it up for me. She (UNE) isn't. :smile:

    Johann
     
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  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Conferentieoord & Hotel Rolduc

    Kerkrade is situated in the dynamic 'Parkstad Limburg', offering an array of cultural and recreational possibilities. Gaia Park Zoo Kerkrade Zuid-Limburg is just 5 kilometres from the hotel. It is declared to be the most beautiful zoo of the Netherlands and Belgium. Or you can visit SnowWorld Landgraaf, the largest indoor skiing village in the world.

    For lovers of tranquillity and relaxation Abdij Rolduc is just the right spot. Here you will be staying in a lovely part of the Netherlands. Rolduc is the largest preserved abbey complex in the Netherlands, serving as a cloister for centuries. Nowadays the abbey functions as a hotel, offering excellent accommodation for both business and leisure guests.

    Abdij Rolduc comprises the 3-star hotel Abdijhotel Rolduc and the 2-star Auberge Rolduc. The old cloister rooms have been converted into hotel rooms. The rooms at Abdijhotel Rolduc come with an ensuite bathroom. The rooms at Auberge Rolduc feature a washbasin and shared bathroom facilities are located in the corridor. After a wonderful night's rest you can enjoy a delicious breakfast before heading out for a great day in 'Parkstad Limburg'.
     
  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    of fruitless job-hunting with your new Azteca-validated UNE um...degree. :sad:

    Good catch, Lerner!

    Johann
     
  7. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

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  8. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Possibly there are other connections between European New University (ENU) and the University of Northwest Europe (UNE).

    UNE's contact address is at Heyendallaan 58.
    However, UNE's payment address is slightly different; it's at Heyendallaan 64B.
    This seems similar to ENU's contact address, which is at Heyendallaan 64.
     
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    This new one (ENU) has partners in Tbilisi, Georgia and Baku, Azerbaijan. Hey, we've been this route before, in 2011! Abbey of Rolduc jogged something... here it is: http://www.degreeinfo.com/general-distance-learning-discussions/38827-new-universites-degree-mills-eu.html

    Maybe you could be first on your block to have a diploma from a school in Georgia or Azerbaijan! :smile:

    Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose, n'est-ce pas? Might as well move along, folks. Not much new to see here.

    Johann
     
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  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Forgot to mention - I used the search-gadget before I started this thread - in an effort to avoid duplication. For some reason, University of Northwest Europe returned no hits -- but what the heck. It happens.

    Suffice it to say that last time, we established that University of Northwest Europe was not on the official Dutch list of Higher Ed. institutions. A school, not on the mainstream Dutch list, validated by another school not on the mainstream Mexican list and by yet another, not on the mainstream Nicaraguan list.

    This chain could be the source of a new "House that Jack Built" story. :smile:

    Johann
     
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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Or maybe it's like the worn-out political joke:

    "Who pardoned Richard Nixon?"
    "Gerald Ford."
    "OK, who pardoned Ford for pardoning Nixon?"

    "Who validated U. of Northwest Europe?"
    "U. Azteca."
    "OK, who validated Azteca for validating UNE?"
    "I dunno - Universidad Central de Nicaragua, maybe?" :smile:

    Johann
     

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