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    Andersonville

    Notice Andersonville Baptist Seminary is now Andersonville Seminary. Wonder why? (www.andersonvilleseminary.com)

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    Re: Andersonville

    Originally posted by Jimmy Clifton
    Notice Andersonville Baptist Seminary is now Andersonville Seminary. Wonder why? (www.andersonvilleseminary.com)
    Make that Andersonville Theological Seminary. And as to wondering why, I’ve been doing much more than that; I’ve been agonizing and losing sleep over it. ;)

    The only reason I can come up with is that their accreditor, ACI (Accrediting Commission International, of Beebe, Arkansas), has had an epiphany and has decided to cancel the accreditation of all Baptist schools. Andersonville, in a mad rush, changed its name, rather than risk loosing such a valuable endorsement. :D

    Either that, or because the telephone book listed them as ABS, they got tired of getting a lot of phone calls asking for an estimate on a brake job. :D

    Now, does this mean they will have to change their listing with the Library of Congress? I’m sure they wouldn’t want to loose that valuable recognition either. :D :D :D
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    So why has ACI dropped all Baptist schools?

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    It was a joke, Jimmy.

    I like this statement from the site: "By the grace of God and common sense, we are able to keep your educational cost down to a minimum."

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    Hi, Gert,

    It's been a long and busy day and I missed the word "epiphany."

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    Well, they have not had educational integrity; so why have denominational integrity? I am sure they would say that it is to better serve evangelical students who do not consider themselves Baptist. I expect it is to escape the, in some circles, perjorative connotations associated with the word "Baptist." Just as many formerly Baptist churches now call themselves "Bible" or "Community" churches.. In short, they want to get "students" that might not want to listen to tapes, I mean study, at a "Baptist" school.

    Craig, who attends a ------- church:)
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    Re: Re: Andersonville

    Originally posted by Gus Sainz
    Either that, or because the telephone book listed them as ABS, they got tired of getting a lot of phone calls asking for an estimate on a brake job. :D
    Of course, their new acronymn is ATS, which also happens to stand for Association of Theological Schools, the "gold" of recognized religious accreditors. Perhaps it's wishful thinking or a Freudian slip on the part of the Andersonville people? :D


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    Re: Re: Andersonville

    Originally posted by Gus Sainz
    The only reason I can come up with is that their accreditor, ACI (Accrediting Commission International, of Beebe, Arkansas), has had an epiphany and has decided to cancel the accreditation of all Baptist schools. Andersonville, in a mad rush, changed its name, rather than risk loosing such a valuable endorsement. :D
    This would be of great detriment to the overall credibility of Andersonville's degree programs. Can you imagine how many students would drop the program if ATS lost ACI accreditation?

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    Talking Truth about seminary found in GA

    Last year, my wife and I were deep in the quagmire of trying to find a new church. After the service was over at one of our "hopefuls," we met with the pastor. He extolled his great love for the Lord, passion for evangelism , and commitment to biblical exegesis. Glancing up at the certificate that adorned his office wall - I read in horror Master of Divinity, Andersonville Baptist Seminary

    What an easy way to strike a potential church off one's short list.

    :D

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    Steve,

    How well did he preach? Were his grammar and syntax all right? Was the sermon intellectually oriented? By the way, I used to live near Ft. Gordon, in Augusta.

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    Re: Truth about seminary found in GA

    I agree with you Steven. On the surface it makes you question the person's judgement, intelligence, or ethical issues.

    So many affordable and accredited options. Zeeesh!

    North

    Originally posted by steven_king
    Last year, my wife and I were deep in the quagmire of trying to find a new church. After the service was over at one of our "hopefuls," we met with the pastor. He extolled his great love for the Lord, passion for evangelism , and commitment to biblical exegesis. Glancing up at the certificate that adorned his office wall - I read in horror Master of Divinity, Andersonville Baptist Seminary

    What an easy way to strike a potential church off one's short list.

    :D

    Steven King

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    Originally posted by Jimmy Clifton
    Steve,

    How well did he preach? Were his grammar and syntax all right? Was the sermon intellectually oriented? By the way, I used to live near Ft. Gordon, in Augusta.
    Jimmy,
    IIRC, he seemed able to communicate in the way one would expect for a minister. Having heard him speak only once I really don't feel qualified to judge his intellectual framework.

    As North pointed out in his reply, I have to wonder if ministers seeking unaccredited degrees do so for the financial savings - or -or do they fear the amount of legitimate work they must do otherwise? With all the great, largely unquestioned programs in existence: why choose something the bad option.

    I recall another church where I served as an associate. When I was in the hiring process I was told of the pastor's great commitment to biblical hermeneutics. Originally I thought, "All right...bring on the preaching." But I was shocked the first few times I heard him speak - then I discovered where he attended seminary - Baptist Christian University. Yikes.

    But I have found a good church home...this guy is earning his doctorate through NOBTS.

    ahhhhhh,
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    Steve,

    Baptist Christian University seems to have made great strides.

    http://www.lbu.edu/

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    Steve: This is a small point, and really just offered as a kind of annotation to your note, not as a counter argument. But perhaps the very best preaching I have ever heard was during the one week exit seminar at Louisiana Baptist University last year. It was a very classical "cross" sermon, that led as usual into an invitation for salvation or rededication; the guy was from Mississippi, he was an LBU graduate (and I think Baptist Bible College, MO) there was nothing reallly unusual about the sermon, but man he could preach. My point is perhaps some of the best preachers ever might have had at topsas an academic credential an unaccredited Th.G. Conversely, I have heard speakers with sterling academic credentials that were so boring the congregation considers mass suicide. And educated men who are great speakers. Very specific degrees in expository preaching or training for broadcasting not withstanding, I am not sure if the accreditation of one's degree has much to do with the quality of preaching. I am not going to defend or not defend LBU, because that is not my point, but people like Neal Weaver, Jimmy Tharp, Fred Moody, Jimmy Combs, Jim Anderson, and Roy Wallace can PREACH. Actuallly, Jimmy Hayes, who runs the very less than enviable Andersonville Seminary, I hear, is a pretty good preacher. Looking at my list, it seems that having the name Jimmy is the first step toward good preaching--just kidding!

    Blessings and I am happy you found a good church

    Craig, Th.D. LBU
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    Originally posted by Jimmy Clifton
    Steve,

    Baptist Christian University seems to have made great strides.

    http://www.lbu.edu/
    Why doesn't LBU simply rename it's Th.D.s as D.A.s (still a recognized teaching credential) and attempt to get TRACS accreditation. If they were successful it would bring them more credibility.

    North

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    What is a DA?

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