Anyone heard of Transfer.org?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by sanantone, Jul 20, 2013.

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  1. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    It has participating colleges in 12 different states. A database of transfer equivalencies for a college is either housed on the site, or there is a link that takes you to a database on the school's website. Some schools even have equivalency charts for military credits and standardized tests. Even though I despise the school, I discovered the website when I was trying to prove to people on City-Data that University of Phoenix credits are likely to transfer.
    https://www.transfer.org/uselect/login.htm
     
  2. curtisc83

    curtisc83 New Member

    I just read your post on City-Data. A few things I've learned on City-Data is everyone claims they went to a top 20 school. And all for-profit or religious schools aren't accredited. And most people on the forum don't really know what accreditation is. It's pretty funny and frustrating at the same time.
     
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  3. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I'm not a fan of for-profits, but it's disturbing how little supposedly college educated people know about college. I know that people aren't going to be as nerdy as me or the people on this forum about post-secondary education, but they could at least refrain from spreading misinformation. We're all wrong occasionally, but at least one can concede when it happens. The moderator who said most brick and mortar colleges won't accept online credits really made my head hurt. Where do people get this stuff from? It's like they just pull it out of their behinds.

    People go there to ask for advice. It's probably not the best idea, but it's a place to gather a bunch of opinions. That one guy is about to finish a degree at UoP and he's wanting to start a second degree to pursue his passion for healthcare. That forum has people telling him that his credits won't likely transfer. It's irresponsible. The most annoying people are the ones who blurt out that Devry or any other for profit isn't regionally accredited without doing any research. Shouldn't they have learned how to conduct research and substantiate claims in college? The worst person is the one who says that American Military University made up the homeland security degree. He's wrong 99% of the time.
     
  4. curtisc83

    curtisc83 New Member

    I learn real fast it's a dog and pony show on the C-D work and edu forums. Its top 20 or your school is unaccredited and you'll become homeless/shamed...LOL.

    Anytime Liberty University comes up no one has any facts on it but everyone becomes experts. Tons of Christian Uni's require some form of religious courses no matter the major. Some how this is a hard concept to understand. This phenomenon of being short sighted isn't limited to LU. It is hard to believe C-D posters are college educated.

    And are you referring to NJBest...LOL.
     
  5. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    No, I was referring to PyramidSurf. To him, anything online is not a real education and non-traditional schools that are for-profit or non-profit are diploma mills. He doesn't think anyone can get a job with an online degree. He also thinks that the people in the military who attend school online are lazy and dumb. He's made several incorrect statements about AMU not being accredited, AMU making up degree programs (homeland security and intelligence), AMU accepting an unlimited amount of CLEPs, AMU accepting an unlimited amount of transfer credits, and various top 50 colleges with online programs putting on their transcripts/diplomas that the degrees were earned online or through a distance education department.

    NJBest doesn't have a tendency to give a bunch of incorrect facts; his opinions are just very snooty. He's sort of softened his stances. He used to bash the idea of attending public schools. Now, he seems to be okay with the ones in the top 50 or top 100. He's still out of touch with reality. He thinks that every college is like Princeton University where he got his degree (or not worth going to if it isn't). Gatornation thinks that if you don't attend a top 100 school, you shouldn't attend college at all. I chose the schools that would be most flexible and cheapest for me. Those just happened to be Thomas Edison State College and Angelo State University, both unranked. Attending unranked schools and online programs obviously wasn't an issue when I was accepted to a funded PhD program at Texas State University, a regional university ranked #46 in the West. It's not Princeton, but I think it's worth it. A $26,000 stipend in a state with a low cost of living is hard to beat.
     
  6. curtisc83

    curtisc83 New Member

    Doesn't seem like C-D peeps are grasping what your saying about UoP....LOL. I posted but I think it was lost in the noise. UoP isn't an awesome school but the RA credits it produces are usually transferable. Only thing that might stop it is moving into a program at a different school that requires ABET credits or something.
     
  7. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Yes, and that is applicable to any school. If a specific program is one that often has programmatic accreditation, then there can be issues with transferring credits. Every "real college" is not going to have every programmatic accreditation, so this isn't unique to for profits. Also, credits won't transfer if they don't fit into your degree program. If you completed a bunch of English credits and you're planning to major in engineering at another college, a lot of you transfer credits will not be applicable to the new degree no matter which college they come from.

    Cry_havoc doesn't even know what accreditation is. This seems to be the most common root to the misconceptions on that forum. Cry_havoc said that UoP has bad accreditation. What is bad accreditation? Does her or she mean to tell me that Arizona State University has bad accreditation too?
     
  8. Damnation

    Damnation New Member

    As interesting as the discussion is... does anyone realize that we skipped about talking about trasnfer.org :)
     
  9. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

  10. curtisc83

    curtisc83 New Member

    I've known a couple people that transferred from UoP into state schools. Some credits didn't transfer but that's because they had a whole bunch of LA credits and transferred into a MIS programs. Lots of schools will even take IT certs as IT credit.

    My UG is a for-profit and a Texas State school was willing to take it for admissions into a Masters program. Decided on LU because I could take courses as fast as I wanted or as slow. The state school used a strict two year plan.

    On C-D I think that battle is lost. Your points are valid but no one is listening. Still wondering when your going to be shredded on here :p
     
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  11. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Well, the thread got closed, and now Cry_Havoc is sending me direct messages about her/his imaginary friends. I tried to rep you, but it might have gone away when messages started being deleted. I know I lost rep points because the repped post was deleted.
     
  12. curtisc83

    curtisc83 New Member

    Oh well. The transfer.org website is a nice tool and could be useful. I know most folks on here are wondering what we are talking about. Basically on another forum sanantone posted the same info or pretty close to it. Immediately posters thought the list was JUST schools that would accept UoP credits. After that some posters stated on the basis of reputation UoP credits wouldn't be accepted. I mentioned transfers are based on accreditation and not a intangible like reputation. Then for like 6 pages nothing new was said...LOL....the end.

    In the end transfer.org is a great tool but its not a comprehensive list. Just a list of schools with agreements. It does blow my mind how little is known about accreditation.
     
  13. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    It's disturbing that these people are awarded degrees. Yeah, transfer.org has the potential to be a great website if it gets more colleges to participate. I think every school should at least have an equivalency database on its website. It takes much of the guesswork out of things. The Big 3 should definitely do this because they receive credits from so many different colleges. I know it's not possible to evaluate the courses of every school in the country, but colleges have to evaluate the credits that do come to them, so they might as well keep a record and post it publicly.

    What I found annoying is that TESC posts how CLEPs and DSSTs will transfer, but it doesn't post how Excelsior exams (now ECEPs) will transfer. ECEs are a common source of credit at TESC. Straighterline even has a chart for how its courses will transfer to TESC. Another school that should have an equivalency chart is Penn Foster even though ACE approval of their courses is volatile.
     

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