Lindenwood U. or U. of Arkansas-Monticello

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Michael, Jun 17, 2013.

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  1. Michael

    Michael Member

  2. Michael

    Michael Member

    Guess no one has an opinion. :)
     
  3. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    Neither school has a highly recognizable name. If you live in the STL metro area I'd chose Lindenwood, if you live in SW Missouri (around Springfield) or the state of Arkansas I'd go with UA-Monticello. If you're not near either school/out of state, choose the cheaper of the two.
     
  4. Michael

    Michael Member

    Thanks for your reply.

    I live in Mississippi, so I'm closer to Arkansas-Monticello. Also, it's a lot cheaper than Lindenwood, but Lindenwood offers 50% tuition scholarships for students over 55, so that would make the cost about the same or maybe somewhat cheaper than A-M.
     
  5. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I agree with AUTiger00; however, I would choose UA-M because at least UA system has reputation.

    Also, it is the first time I ever heard of Lindenwood University.
     
  6. Michael

    Michael Member

    Thanks for your thoughts on this.
     
  7. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    Honestly, just choose the cheaper of the two. Both I'm sure are fine schools, it's just that neither has a reputation outside of it's immediate area.
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I've never heard of either of them. If your gut is telling to go with one of them, I say listen to it.
     
  9. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Lindenwood's MFA program has existed since 2003, although the online MFA option is probably more recent. According to College Navigator, LU issued 35 MFAs just last year. Since the program is 10 years old, it's likely that LU has educated hundreds of MFA students since the program was established.

    The Arkansas-Monticello MFA program, on the other hand, is brand new -- it's starting up as of June 2013. So the UAM program has no track record as yet. In fact, UAM has a relatively limited track record with graduate education in general. According to College Navigator, they only issued 48 master's degrees total last year (mostly in education with a handful in forestry). For comparison, LU issued over 1,400 master's and doctoral degrees last year, in a wide variety of disciplines.

    At UAM, you would be one of the very first students in the program. UAM has never done this before, so you would be something of a "guinea pig". This has the potential to be exciting if things go well, but it also has the potential to be frustrating if things go wrong. So UAM seems like the more "adventuresome" choice, while LU seems like the "safer" choice.
     
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  10. major56

    major56 Active Member

  11. Michael

    Michael Member

    Thanks, Steve. Good advice.
     
  12. Michael

    Michael Member

    CalDog,

    I appreciate your analysis, information, and thoughts -- very helpful.
     
  13. Michael

    Michael Member

    major56,

    I couldn't consider Goddard because I couldn't attend the residency.

    As for UTEP, I looked at their program previously and eliminated it. They don't accept transfer credit, and I have nine hours from Adams State College. Also, I want to concentrate in poetry, and they require courses in fiction, screenwriting, and playwriting which I have no interest in.

    But I do appreciate your reply. I always welcome any information and opinions given to me.
     
  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    In general I am a big believer in state university systems. That would be my choice.
     
  15. Michael

    Michael Member

    I am a state certified teacher in English, social studies, and special education. I was going to use the MFA degree, or whatever master's I go for, to upgrade my teacher's license; this would result in a pay raise of over $4000 a year. Well, I got some astounding news today. I talked with a person at the state department of education, and she said they did not at this time accept MFA degrees for purposes of upgrading to AA certification! This is perhaps the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I must say that I do not have a high opinion of public education anyway, and this doesn't help my opinion. This is just stupid.

    I might get the MFA anyway, just because I want to, and because it might help get me out of the public school, k-12 system.
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Given that an MFA takes more credits to earn than most MA degrees, that's a strange decision on their part.
     
  17. Michael

    Michael Member

    I agree -- strange, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Common sense and public education don't often go together.

    However, I now have to rethink my decision. I could go for an MALS, but the in-state one I've looked at costs more than an MFA, and I believe a terminal degree would do more for me than an MALS, in regard to helping me get out of k-12 public education.

    I thought about certification or a master's in gifted, but that would only confine me to k-12 public ed.

    So, back to the drawing board, as it were.
     
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  18. Michael

    Michael Member

    Arkansas-Monticello raised their tuition, so now the degree would cost me about $3000 more than the Lindenwood degree -- except for this: UAM offers a complete tuition waiver for students 60 years old and older. I will be 60 in February of 2014.

    I'm trying to decide whether to enroll soon in Lindenwood and pay $9000 for the degree or wait 19 months and go with UAM for free tuition. UAM is on the semester system, so it would take two years plus maybe a summer to finish their degree, taking 6 hours a semester. Lindenwood has four quarters, so i could finish their degree about six months sooner taking the same number of hours, per quarter.

    What would you do -- go with Lindenwood, enroll sooner and finish much sooner, or wait 19 months and go with UAM with the tuition waiver?
     
  19. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    Unless there is a pressing need to have the degree done ASAP, I would wait 19 months for the tuition waiver.

    I am a fan of free.
     
  20. Michael

    Michael Member

    I am, too, but I'm not getting any younger. :)

    And I meant to say I'd be 60 in Feb. of 2015, not 2014.
     

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