I would like some advice

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  1. Littlelola777

    Littlelola777 New Member

    Hello,
    I'm an undergraduate student who turns 28 in December. I had a gpa of 3.3 before having severe personal issues which I failed 3 classes it dropped me to a 2.1. I need to get my gpa back to at least 3.0 for law school. I'm very determined to better but I only have 48 credits remaining. Any bright ideas on how do to this ? I'm also considering transferring to get a "fresh gpa" is this a good idea ? My school does take retakes but it only averages the F and not sure if the new grade replaces it.

    I attend SNHU online.
     
  2. LGFlood

    LGFlood New Member

    I would just advise you to finish those 48 credits as strong as possible. If Law schools are like other grad schools, they are going to want transcripts from all institutions you have attended, so a plan for a "fresh GPA" doesn't sound like it's feasible. Have you taken the LSAT yet?
     
  3. Littlelola777

    Littlelola777 New Member

    not yet 160's on pt though
     
  4. FJD

    FJD Member

    I would do my best to get top grades for the remaining credits. Most schools will look favorably on a rising trend in grades. You can explain the circumstances surrounding your poor early performance (and why these problem no longer affect you) in your personal statement. From the research I did back when I applied (and this was more than 10 yrs ago, so things might have changed a bit), by far the single most important factor in law school admissions is your LSAT score. I found lots of schools, many in the "top tier," that admitted nearly 100% of applicants above a certain LSAT score (160 or so). So please take the time to practice and get your score up as much as possible. Keep in mind that most law schools will average your scores if you re-take the test, so you've really got one shot to nail it. For example, a "poor" 1st score of, say, 145 and a "very good" second score of 160 would average to a 152.5, which is right about at the median score.

    I hope this helps. You didn't ask about whether going to law school is a wise choice, so I'll keep that opinion to myself.
     
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  5. Littlelola777

    Littlelola777 New Member

    Did you end up going?
     
  6. FJD

    FJD Member

    Yes, I finished in 2005 and I'm a licensed attorney. Make sure you do your homework on this, because law school applications are way down, and the legal job market is not what it once was. I think prospective applicants are deciding that it's not worth the time, effort, and money to go. If I were applying now, I would find a school that would give me a full or almost full scholarship, or I would pass. Now, if you've got rich parents or some other funding source, that's different. But I wouldn't take the risk right now. It's three very expensive and very miserable years, with little certainty of outcome.
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I had a similar situation. I had a lot going on what should have been the last semester of my Master's program, and flunked two courses, sending my cumulative GPA spiralling down from 3.8 or so to being just shy of 3.1. I've overcome this by explaining the situation in my personal statements for doctoral program applications, and that seems to work because since then I've been admitted to a number of decent doctoral programs. (I also have a top GRE score, which helps, so I echo the suggestion to do well on your LSAT.)
     
  8. CavTrooper

    CavTrooper Member

    LSAC will combine all your grades from all institutions ever attended to produce a cumulative GPA, which is what law schools will look at when assessing your application. Therefore, changing schools is not a solution to your problem. Just get A's from here on out, and kill the LSAT. An average GPA and killer LSAT (or vice versa) is referred to as a "splitter" application, and there are many schools that are known to look favorably on splitter situations - I think Georgetown Law is one of them. Also, like FJD said, don't pay sticker price for law school. I'd say unless you can get into a t-14 school (top 14), don't go to law school at full sticker under any circumstances. The market is saturated and shrinking, from what I understand. Good luck.

    Also, take everything I said with a grain of salt - I have no law school experience. Last year I was seriously considering LS though, so I registered with LSAC and heavily researched the entire application process. I'd defer to folks like FJD on this one.
     
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  9. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member


    Some schools allow you to have more than 120 semester units on your transcipt. I had many more on my Excelsior (USNY) transcript and all were included in my overall grade. Check with your school to see if this is an option.
     
  10. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member


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  11. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    By my math it would take 60 graded credits at only "A" work to get up at 3.00
    That's 20 classes, I think a person "could" do it, but I wouldn't decide until I'd managed to pull perfect "A" grades for the 48. At that point, you can decide if the cost and time of 1 additional semester is worth the work. Because, if just one isn't an "A" then you've not gained anything.
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I guess it's been said already but I don't know that there's any such thing as a "fresh gpa." If the credits transfer then the grades transfer too. You might have the option to not transfer specific "bad" courses but then you don't get the credits either.
     
  13. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    If you're willing to start over, check to see if your state has academic fresh start. Otherwise, you would have to retake the failed courses at the original school in order to replace those grades. You should really talk to someone at SNHU to have them clarify the retake policy.
     

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