Earning Half A College Degree Is Better Than None

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Earning Half A College Degree Is Better Than None

    Earning Half A College Degree Is Better Than None - Yahoo! Finance

     
  2. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    I have a theory about this. Kids who go into college after high school have higher intelligence levels than those who don't. Intelligent people tend to command higher salaries. Some of us dropped out of college for reasons other than academic but graduated high school at the top of our classes and were involved in gifted programs and the like in school.
     
  3. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    I'm going to look for the video clip that talks about how you could put bright kids in a box (as opposed to a college) for 4 years and they'd still succeed in life.
     
  4. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I've actually seen plenty of jobs that require a certain number of credit hours as opposed to a whole degree. The job I have now took criminal justice credits in lieu of experience. They're also thinking about setting up a pay scale based in credit hours/degrees along with experience.
     
  5. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    I would recommend that someone with 1/2 a bachelor degree pick up an AA degree.
     
  6. lawrenceq

    lawrenceq Member

    I'm with you. ;-)
     
  7. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    I tend to agree. It may not be "PC," but a good bit of intelligence is innate, and you don't create geniuses by sending students of average intelligence to college. College provides an opportunity to move a little bit closer to your potential. If you are just not that smart, then college won't make you smart.
     
  8. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    I agree! There is no such thing as "half a college degree!" An associates degree makes one a college graduate and 4 plus years of college and no degree, a professional student or a college dropout.
     
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  9. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

  10. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

  11. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    Correlation does not imply causation.
    I remember seeing on the news that men married to younger women live longer than men married to women their same age or older. One might conclude that marrying a woman makes a man younger but I do not. I believe that most men marry the prettiest woman they can and men who have more money and who are in better health can marry a younger woman because they are attractive to younger women.

    How many 30 year old women want to marry an overweight and poor 40 year old man? Probably far fewer than who want to marry a physically fit and affluent 40 year old man.

    So I always take these conclusions with a grain of salt.
     
  12. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    Can I exchange my Bachelors for 2 Associates and my 40 for (2) 20's? :silly:
     
  13. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Most people don't know about the Big Three, which make the process just as easy as you make it sound.

    Although my aim has always been to get the BA, getting the AA along the way has proven invaluable, especially considering how many setbacks I have had. Considering how my life was just a few years ago, I still marvel at the fact that I have any degree at all. My dinky AA means that nothng at all can put me into the "no degree" category ever again.
     
  14. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Yeah, who needs that love, kindness, integrity, dedication and commitment garbage? Just marry the prettiest woman that will have you and life will be good.
     
  15. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    But how do we know if people with "half a degree" didn't learn valuable skills? In IT, for example, a degree is not always important. What if someone learned how to code or learned enough to earn a marketable certification with their "half degree?"
     
  16. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    As ryoder said, correlation does not imply causation. We can imagine dozens of scenarios that make the significance of the numbers less tenable.

    Maybe some of the people with "half a degree" are actually working towards finishing one. These may be people who already have well-paying jobs and therefore have the money but little time to do college, leaving them in various stages of completion. (thus, the directionality problem)

    Age is also a factor, one that easily correlates with both college and work experience while work experience easily correlates with higher pay. Recent high school grads, for example. Less work experience means less pay while also having less college since they have had less lifetime to do so. (thus, the third variable problem)

    There are clearly many differences between the type of person who has some college versus the type of person who either does not desire to pursue college at all or who does not have the opportunity.
     
  17. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    On most employment applications half a degree is some college. Whether you have 1 college credit or a couple hundred you still have "some college" if you don't hold a college degree!
     
  18. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member


    Yes, I know that, so why is everyone automatically assuming that there is no causation?
     
  19. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    Government jobs pay based on education level, tenure, and experience, not ability. So if you take government jobs out of the equation the numbers might come out differently as well.

    I don't disagree with the findings but I think there are many factors and accumulation of college credit is one of them. Someone's reasoning skills and ability to learn are probably the most important factors in becoming highly paid, however.
     
  20. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    But you also have to take into account that those with "some college" earn less than those with a degree. So what does that say? Are those with some college more intelligent than high school graduates, but less intelligent than college graduates? Or, does it say that those who dropped out of college don't have as much access to high paying jobs as college graduates? Yes, government jobs might have something to do with it, but private employers are increasingly using education as a screening tool.
     

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