Do transcripts show that courses were DL/online?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by 2001puglover, Apr 26, 2002.

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  1. 2001puglover

    2001puglover New Member

    Was just wondering if it is indicated anywhere on your transcripts transferred to another institution, if the courses/credits were obtained via distance learning or on campus? This was just something I thought of today, not that it would really make a difference, but just interested in knowing.

    Thanks,
    Donna
     
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  2. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

  3. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member

    Yes. No. Maybe.

    This is school-specific information. Some schools do notate, perhaps with an "x" for Extension, or in other ways, but most do not (it appears; no empirical data available).



    Tom Nixon
     
  4. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    I think I remember reading that CSU-DH does change some listings on distance learning transcripts, such as HUX for humanites rather than HUM. But I do think that most schools do not make a distinction.

    clint
     
  5. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    For the ONE DL I took during my otherwise traditional program, an asterisk (*) was put beside the DL course on the transcript and at the bottom the following: * External Studies.
     
  6. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    The University of London external programmes actually indicate that the degree was studied externally on the degree itself! When you hang it in your office or home, all will see that the program was DL.
     
  7. irat

    irat New Member

    no, yes, sort of

    I have taken distance learning-on-line courses from U. of VT, Community College of VT, Champlain College, and Capella. I can find no indication in either the grade report or transcript that they were dl. When I have asked the registrars they say there is no difference in the course on the transcript.
    However, I keep a portfolio of my courses for various certifications. That is a the course description and the grade report or transcript, a course sylabus, etc. Often the course description lists "on-line" where the building location would be. However, this does not appear on the grade report.
    However, as mentioned by others above, some people report subtle codes from some colleges like an "e" for university extension or an "*" to indicate off campus.
    I believe John Bears book said the U. of London external degree was no different from the on-campus degrees. One of the posters above said it is noted dl on it. I'm not sure which is correct.
     
  8. paynedaniel

    paynedaniel New Member

    Ironic

    I am not trying to be critical at all, but some of the responses to this post seem to be suggesting shame at earning a degree by distance. One should not earn a degree by distance if he/she will be ashamed if others know it was earned by distance.
     
  9. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    Several years ago the University of London external programme website indicated that the degree certificate issued indicated that the degree was studied for externally. This is no longer on the website, but I e-mailed UofL about this recently and they indicated that the degree certificate STILL indicates that the degree was studied for externally in the wording of the degree.

    If the degrees are supposed to be of equal quality (internal or external) then why do they have to mention the mode of study? I'm sure the internal degree does not indicate that the course was studied internally! It's all nonsense if you ask me.
     
  10. 2001puglover

    2001puglover New Member

    Re: Ironic

    Personally, I am by no means ashamed of obtaining a degree in this manner. In fact, more power to myself and all the others that are in pursuit of online degress and courses. These people are empowered by the concept of distance learning, thus promoting their own creativity and options in the learning process.
     
  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Florida State University and the University of South Florida transcripts and Diplomas make no mention of course or student location.
    I have attended both of those institutions. In fact I still attend FSU.
     
  12. Kane

    Kane New Member

    Example: DL in employment applications

    I am a fledgling U of L External Programme Student and if you look at it realistically, it would be difficult to hide the fact that your degree was earned by DL.

    Pretend you live Utah, on your resume you may have work experience listed from 1995-2002 without any employment gaps. Let us say you have a BA from the University of South Africa or London awarded in 2001.

    Your boss will likely notice you worked in Utah at the same time you earned your degree thousands of miles away. He is probably going to ask how you were able to travel too and from Africa or England and still work full time at Denny’s or wherever. This is when you have to explain the DL aspect. It is the only believable explanation. This scenario could also apply if you live in Utah (or anywhere else) and the school is five states away.

    I know if a potential employer pooh-poohs my CV based on the DL aspect of my education that he is simply not worth my time and effort. Back to Dennys *S*
     
  13. Kane

    Kane New Member

    To: Scott Henley

    SCOTT WROTE: "Several years ago the University of London external programme website indicated that the degree certificate issued indicated that the degree was studied for externally. This is no longer on the website, but I e-mailed UofL about this recently and they indicated that the degree certificate STILL indicates that the degree was studied for externally in the wording of the degree. If the degrees are supposed to be of equal quality (internal or external) then why do they have to mention the mode of study? I'm sure the internal degree does not indicate that the course was studied internally! It's all nonsense if you ask me."

    FROM THE U OF L CALENDAR: Studying as an External student
    • Upon successful completion you are awarded a University of London degree or diploma. The certificate states that you have studied as an External student and carries the following extract from the Statutes of the University of London 66(2) states, "Candidates granted degrees and other awards shall have attained the same academic standard irrespective of mode or place of study or examination." There is only one University of London degree and it is awarded both to internal students and
    External students.

    Kane
     
  14. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    I agree with the general consensus that it depends. My Antioch transcript doesn't mention DL learning but my Antioch diploma is signed with the title posted "Provost, School of Adult and Experential Learning." Nonetheless, I found that it never really mattered when it comes to employers or even graduate school.

    John
     
  15. irat

    irat New Member

    extended, extension, dl, there may be a difference

    Sometimes we confuse ourselves with all the jargon.
    In my limited experience, extension courses and extended campus courses are in- the chair-classroom courses. They just don't happen on campus. The "traditional" extension class and "extended" campus courses in my area, are in remote parts of the state where it is more practical for the instructor to go to the student. The "external" degree was simply one earned at these "in-class room" non-campus settings.
    U. of London seems to use the term differently, or does it? Are its testing sites U. of London extended or extension classrooms? What is the difference?
    Continuing Education was used in many places to designate the summer courses and night courses offered by a college/university.Often targeting adults and professionals, but also helping undergraduates. Many course descriptions used to separate "day" vs. "night" because it used to matter to some people.
    The next level is the distance learning by interactive tv. Again there is chair-sitting in classrooms, but the instructor is at a different site.
    There were televised, non-interactive courses as well.
    Historically correspondence predate interactive tv. The audiocassette and videotape have supplemented correspondence courses.
    Finally on-line courses seem available from many univesities/colleges. Some as part of the brick an mortar offerings and occasionally a mostly on-line college.
    Brick colleges have a wide variety of learning options, I can't see how in most cases, what difference it makes which meduim was used for the accredited college level course. I don't know why it would be important for a college to make little notes and astricks on the diploma. They seem to reflect an antiquated mentality which doesn't seem to make much difference in the real world.
    Is there a situation in which it would make a difference for a course to be designated "e" extended campus, "i" interactive tv, "tv" televised, "c" correspondence printed matter, "cv" correspondence videotaped classroom, "ca" correspondence audtiotaped classroom, "n" night school, "s" summer school, "o" on-line, "t" tested out of, "a" , advanced placement testing?
    Is there a situation in which it would make a difference for an entire degree to be earned through any of these mediums?
    All the best!
     
  16. Yan

    Yan New Member

    Re: To: Scott Henley

    University of London has offered its external degrees since 1850s. It is the first university in the UK and the world (?) to offer external degrees. I think that the inclusion of the "external" in the diploma is just the tradition rather than the indication of the inferiority of the quality of the degrees. I don't ever hear the complaint about the non-acceptance of the UoL external degrees for further studies or working purely of its "external" status.

    Most of other UK universities offer their external or off compus degrees without mentioning the mode of study in their diplomas. In fact, employers will know it, as some posters mentioned previously, and I don't see there is any difference of the inclusion or not of "external" in the diploma.
     
  17. Peter French

    Peter French member

    Australian schools issue identical degrees for f2f and DL.

    Just remember to say - '...wannastubbiemate?...' and '...owyagoinmateorite?...' and they will accept that you studied here.

    ...and don't forget to 'burp' at the end of it.....

    Peter French
     
  18. I've taken DL courses from four different "bricks & mortar" schools; none have made any distinction on their transcripts for the DL or "external" courses. I suppose that somebody "in the know" about one of those schools would know that a particular Biology class is offered ONLY via DL, but since I've never made any secret of how or where I earned my credits, I'm not worried.

    I work for the government. Although some will argue this assertion, Uncle Sam is one of the more forward-thinking employers when it comes to DL: A degree from an accredited institution is a degree from an accredited institution, DL or not. The potential reaction to my TESC degree never worried me. But if it had, those worries would've been allayed after the fifth or sixth person commented that they drove past TESC's exit on Route 33 all the time but have never actually been to the campus. :rolleyes:

    (For the unaware, TESC's "campus" consists of a very nicely remodeled "row house" a block from the State Capitol. It still rates a green "Thomas Edison State College" exit sign on the highway. Accreditation be damned.. you haven't truly arrived as a school until the Department of Transportation recognizes you.)
     
  19. J L Wilemon

    J L Wilemon New Member

    Transcript question

    Good question regarding transcripts. At Amberton University, since all course competencies are the same, whether in the classroom or on-line, the transcript just shows the course number, name, and your grade. Ideally, most colleges would be the same, provided the course content is identical.
     
  20. blahetka

    blahetka New Member

    I just checked my on-line transcripts at Argosy. There is no difference in the way they show tutorials (what they called the DL courses) or the class room delivered courses. I also checked my UoPhx transcripts, and found that none of the Independent Study (what they called DL courses when I went there) showed anything different.
     

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