DBA / PhD DL program in the U.K.

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Marko, Apr 22, 2002.

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  1. Marko

    Marko New Member

    I wanted to focus two previous threads into this thread.
    The two previous threads are as follows:

    1. Looking for a DBA / PhD program !

    http://www.degreeinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3997

    2. Cost of a DBA/Ph.D. in business

    http://www.degreeinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4466

    The first was started by yours truly, the second by Dennis Siemens (we are both Germans -- however I do not personally or "internetly" know Dennis).

    It seems a good idea to have a thread focused specifically on DBA / PhD programs in the U.K., as a doctoral degree from the U.K. would apparently be recognized by the German government (whereas one from the U.S. or Australia etc. would not be recognized).

    Here are some questions / information requests that come to mind:

    1. A list of DBA / PhD programs in the U.K.
    2. Cost of each program (including reduced cost for EU-citizens, if available?).
    3. Which are fully DL, which are partially DL?
    4. Level of difficulty of each program?
    5. Length of program.
    6. Structure of program (taught curriculum vs. independent research).
    7. Instructional methodology.
    8. Perceived quality of prgram, instructors, administrators, etc.


    Any feedback, help is appreciated.

    Thank you.

    :)
     
  2. Marko

    Marko New Member

    Addendum

    Addendum to the list above:

    9. Perceived quality of degree by potencial employers and / or academic institutions?
     
  3. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member

    I reckon most British Universities would not consider their doctoral programs being "Distance Learning" program at all,
    moreover we´re talking about "Research Doctorates" which can be fully (or at least almost) undertaken without residency.

    Greets,
    Trigger
     
  4. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    It is interesting that you mention that a DBA from an Australian university won't be recognized in Germany when USQ (An Australian university) has a campus in Germany. Why would USQ bother to have a campus in Germany when its degrees are considered worthless?

    Regards,.


    http://www.usq-bretten.de/
     
  5. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Here is a quote conserning USQ degrees in Germany

    "Are USQ degrees recognised in Germany?

    A. In general, yes. An agreement between the relevant official bodies (the National Office of Overseas Skills Recognition in Australia and the Zentralstelle für ausländisches Bildungswesen in Germany) states:
    ‘In principle, periods of study at higher education institutions in Australia or Germany should be regarded as comparable on a year-to-year basis. However there are programs and awards in each system which do not lend themselves to direct comparisons with awards in the other system, and which may need to be considered individually, depending on the purpose for which an evaluation is required........
    (‘The Australian PhD and the German Doctorate should be regarded as comparable.
    The Australian Professional doctorate (eg., the DBA) should be regarded in Germany – which has no such degree – as comparable to the normal doctorate (Promotion). The Professional Doctorate is a doctorate undertaken by professionals, and requiring the submission and defence of a normal thesis.’
    Recognition of qualifications required for professional practice in regulated professions eg, law, teaching, nursing, engineering, accountancy etc., is a more complicated matter involving extra authorities in both countries. Both governments have undertaken to explore further avenues for mutual recognition of professional qualifications.
    "
     
  6. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member

     
  7. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member

    @ RFValve & rest:

    you got Marco´s message wrong,
    of course foreign degrees will be recognised in Germany,
    also American and Australian ones,

    BUT the will have to be stated in it´s very original form,
    say for example:

    "Firstname Lastname, PhD (USA)"

    and NOT in it´s GERMAN form:

    "Dr. Firstname Lastname"


    All right?
     
  8. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member

    @ RFValve again:

    ...or, to bring back your USQ Bretten example,

    you would have to state your DBA as:


    Firstname Lastname, DBA (AUS)

    and NOT in it´s German/Latin form:

    Dr. rer. oec. Firstname Lastname



    All right?
     

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