Is a smart phone necessary to stay current?

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  1. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    A friend and I were having a friendly debate and I thought it would be interesting to get your input. Is a smart phone necessary to stay current as a teacher? Would an old fuddy-duddy who refuses to abandon his dumb, flip-style, cell phone begin to fall behind in technology acumen? Would he slowly become irrelevant and lose step with the students he is teaching since their lives are becoming more centered around mobile data devices every day? Is it more important for an online teacher than it is for an in-person teacher?

    I think all of the above is possibly true, but I would like to know what you think.


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  2. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Yesh......
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I'm not a teacher but I'll tell you this, I just have one of those flip phones and I sometimes feel a step behind. I just can't afford every new gizmo that comes out.
     
  4. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    Yeah you need to get a smart phone.
    They really aren't that expensive. In many cases they are free.
     
  5. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    1. You're going to get a biased response to this question because we're all members of an online community enabled by tech.
    2. You're not irrelevant as a teacher unless you fail to stay on top of your subject matter expertise and teaching methods.
    3. The question is: Do you see yourself needing to take advantage of smart phones to stay on top of your subject matter or expand your teaching methods?

    I think you'll find that kids behave the same ways they always have, just elaborate past our limitations and think about what we would have done if:

    1. We had constant access to media and didn't have to wait to get home to watch TV or listen to music.
    2. We had constant access to our friends and didn't have to pass notes manually, find a phone or wait for recess to chat.
    3. We had constant access to information and could error check a teacher on the fly during class with wikipedia or other tools.

    Essentially if you've got a class full of kids with smartphones and they're swift about it, they can functionally crowd-source an education during class.

    Up to you if you need to know how they can do that. It does come with a cost.
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I don't have a smartphone, and I don't really plan to get one. One can stay in touch generally without staying in touch constantly. Sooner or later the dumbphone I have will stop working properly, and I'll go to change it out and probably find out all they have by then are smartphones, and I guess then I'll get one.

    That said, I did think that the announcement that the people who do Ubuntu Linux are making a version for smartphones is interesting, because part of what they're doing is making it so that your phone is your computer -- when you get where you're going you dock it so that it charges and is connected to a keyboard, mouse, and monitor for normal computing. Now that sounds cool.
     
  7. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Yeah, unless you lose it and don't have cloud backup.
     
  8. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Yes, that's the question: Is it just a new gizmo or is it something more significant that is becoming a part of our culture? I suppose only time will tell.
     
  9. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    I find this all funny because I have never once in my life owned a cellphone, and have no intention of ever owning one. I'm far from "old", but I have an old school mentality about this sort of thing; if you can't reach me at home or at the office, then damnit you're out of luck.

    After having worked in a management role for a very large telecom company that had a cellphone division, I came to the conclusion from listening to many QA calls and looking at usage notes, that the average person really doesn't need a cellphone at all. It's a luxury item that's gone completely out of control for most people and has just become another unnecessary bill that they create for themselves just to stay "current".
     
  10. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I'm trying to force myself into the opposite direction. As much of a convenience as my devices are, and as much wonderful information as I can cram into a small space, ultimately they make me less productive, less social, more addictive, more insomniac, etc. I'm much more enriched and at inner peace (yes, it's that serious) when I turn everything off and stick to face-to-face meetings and words printed on paper.

    Although, I don't see myself letting go completely. After I pay what amounts to a very minimal price for the device and for the monthly service, I get the following:


    • Free E-Books (I'm currently reading the Iliad and Shakespeare's sonnets
    • Free Radio
    • Free Newspapers and Magazines
    • Free Music (Anything from Bob Marley to Mozart to Phil Collins to Boys II Men)
    • Free DegreeInfo (yay!)
    • Free Games
    • Unlimited Instant Messaging
    • Unlimited Email
    • Telephony

    Although the last one isn't a feature I use very often.
     
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  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I dropped my landline years ago, so having a mobile ultimately costs less for me, not more.
     
  12. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Landline Infrastructure

    I got rid of the landline sometime in the last century.

    Landlines will probably remain viable for businesses and corporations.

    The landline infrastructure should be maintained because if the Satellite system goes down, then all cells go down (and maybe some landlines too).
     
  13. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    If you don't need telephony, one option is to buy an Apple iPod Touch. This is basically the same thing as an iPhone, except that it is stripped of the ability to make or receive phone calls. The upfront cost is $300, and the monthly service cost is truly minimal at $0.

    I know a guy who has a "dumbphone" that is issued and paid for by his employer. So he has telephony, but no "smart" features. However, he carries an iPod Touch as a supplemental "smart" device. This means carrying two devices instead of one, but between the two, he's got pretty much all the capabilities of a smartphone, without paying any monthly charges.
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Not in my case, at least. I'm 70. My son gave me a cellphone for my birthday about 3 years ago. Telecom costs are higher than US in Canada. My landline was costing me close to $40 a month. The cell costs me $12.50, pay-as-I-go. So I ditched the land-line and save close to $30 a month. All I was getting on it were sales calls, anyway!

    As far as smart-phones go, I don't really need one -- at least until my desktop computer dies. Then again, both my older grandkids (boy 13, girl 14) have 'em -- as do their parents. I do a fair amount of computer work with digital-camera images -- and I can't see me (so far) doing that, or my other hobbies (programming and recording my guitar) on a mobile device. I like a bigger screen, particularly for the photo work.

    But the cell-phone is 'way handier and saves me money over the land-line. Works great from toy departments and other Grandpa-filled places, too! :smile:

    Johann
     
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  15. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    <--- still doesn't own a cell phone. Gosh.... I've never taken a phone photo, never sent a text; seriously don't have a clue.
     
  16. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Me too.
    That was what pushed me over the edge too. Everyone calls me on my cell and all I got on my land-line was telemarketers.

    Yes, I ditched my land-line about 6 months ago and have absolutely zero regrets. Between that and the satellite TV I dumped, I'm saving about $140 a month. I pay $7 a year for Skype telephone and hardly ever use it unless we call the in-laws in Canada.
     
  17. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    We must be soul-mates, because you are the first person outside my family that I've met who doesn't own a phone too lol
     
  18. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Ahhh, but I can beat that. One word: MagicJack.

    On my 5-year $69.99 plan with MJ, I spend about $13.99 a year if you break the one-time payment down yearly. The quality is excellent and that's on my very slow 1 MB connection, and now that I have the modem plug I don't even need to have any of my computers on to send or receive calls. Long distance is free which is fantastic.

    I haven't paid an actual phone bill in years. The savings are really nice.
     
  19. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I have a refurb that I bought about a year and a half ago. I love the device, it runs so much more smoothly than my phone. Alas, you need some sort of external internet connection to hook up to, and since wifi isn't available for free in all locations, I still have to pay for cell service. I use my phone to create a wireless hotspot then do all my business on the ipod and my laptop. It's a good system, slow, but convenient and inexpensive.

    If I change professions, I might downgrade my next phone and service, but for the moment, I need instant emails to make sure I don't miss out on contract assignments from one of my various referral agencies (If I don't respond in under 3 minutes, there's only a slight chance that the job wont already be taken- even at under 30 seconds, it's a crapshoot. A unique profession, this interpreting thing I do.)
     
  20. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    You have no land-line or cell phone?
     

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