Mountain State University

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by NMTTD, Dec 21, 2012.

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  1. NMTTD

    NMTTD Active Member

    So an announcement was made on 12/19/12 that the HLC Appeal Panel upheld the decision to withdraw MSU's accreditation. WOW. Just...wow.

    I have a few friends that went there. 2 online and 1 b & m. SO once I heard about all the accreditation drama, I started watching it. WOW. Between that, people still waiting for financial aid to be released since August, their final graduation last night, it's all been just crazy.

    Obviously MSU knew they weren't going to win the appeal since they've been selling everything off, laying off staff, no one is ever at the campuses, and now University of Charleston has agreed to actually take over their campuses.

    No one can get their loans forgiven because UC agreed to take the MSU students, but the problem is many of them are only 12-18 credits from completing their degrees and UC will not be offering all of the degrees that MSU did. SO they will lose A LOT of their credits in the transfer process either to UC or to somewhere else. And most of the people there who used student loans are almost maxed out and have no other funding and can't continue now or start over somewhere else. It's all such a shame. It really is.
     
  2. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Wow!!!!

    For some reason, I always assumed that MSU was a state school.
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I don't recommend them for everyone, but MSU students who are that close to the end of their programs would do well to consider Charter Oak State College and rest of the Big Three.
     
  4. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    That's what I was thinking...
     
  5. nmesproject

    nmesproject New Member

    What will happen to their Doctoral program (executive leadership) students?
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It depends on what the school does. If it decides to stay in business and teach out the students, they'll have the option to continue to graduation. But the school might also enter into one or more agreements with one or more accredited schools (besides UC) to accept the students in transfer. Of course, students who can graduate before the actual loss of accreditation--if that date hasn't already passed--will likely stay with it.

    It sounds, however, like the school is having a going-out-of-business sale. Doctoral students will likely get a raw deal.
     
  7. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    MSU has posted a "teach-out" plan, which covers all of their programs. The teach-out plan was approved by HLC in August 2012. It addresses the Doctorate in Executive Leadership program as follows:

    It sounds like current students have until December 2012 to finish with an MSU degree, or until August 2013 to finish with a UC degree. After that, they still may be able to finish with a UC degree, pending HLC approval.
     
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  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    If it were me, then under the circumstances I'd rather finish with a University of Charleston degree, thank you very much.
     
  9. NMTTD

    NMTTD Active Member

    Accreditation for MSU officially ends on the 31st. The had their final graduation a few days ago. They have a teach out plan and UC is taking over some campuses. But many students are already seeing that UC will not be offering all of the courses that MSU did, so they can either quit school, transfer somewhere else and lose credits, or get into a different program offered by UC and lose credits. All this is provided that they can find funding. 2 of my friends are completely maxed out on loans and still have 12 credits to go. It's just such a mess.
     
  10. major56

    major56 Active Member


    :yo: Me too Steve…
     
  11. soupbone

    soupbone Active Member

    Wow. Back in 2004-2005, I had everything ready to start a BS program with MSU. I'm relieved that I never followed through with it because even though my degree would still be valid, I would be extremely irritated by the accompanying stigma.
     
  12. NMTTD

    NMTTD Active Member

    So in looking at this page, I see they have what they think are similar degrees offered by UC (some, perhaps. But definitely some are a real stretch) and then a lot that MSU offered that UC is hoping to be able to offer in the future but don't offer as of now. That's A LOT of people who can't get their degrees.

    Mountain State University
     
  13. NMTTD

    NMTTD Active Member

  14. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

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  16. NorCal

    NorCal Active Member

    I'd like to say that I'm shocked, but that would not be accurate . . . (Another one bites the dust)
     

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