PhD by submitting Dissertation

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  1. RC05

    RC05 New Member

    Hi all,
    I URGENTLY need info on Colleges / Institutes that can review my Professional Knowledge of 27 years and a Dissertation submitted on a current & relevant topic - and grant me a PhD in Engineering Management.
    I've heard this is possible from known & recognized Higher Ed Institutes .... but my web-crawling over the past 3 days has not been very eventful :-(

    Help !!!
     
  2. bassethorn

    bassethorn New Member

    Contact the UK and SA and Aussie universities? Maybe Union Institute and University?
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Bassethorn is correct. Depending on whether cost is an issue, start with the South African schools first, especially UNISA. But don't be fooled into thinking that this is a quick or easy process. You can expect this degree to take AT LEAST 3 years and more likely closer to 5 years.
     
  4. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

  5. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    They have a doctoral program in Management and since it's a dissertation-only program the op can write the dis on a topic related to engineering management.
     
  6. distancedoc2007

    distancedoc2007 New Member

    UNISA is a tough grind, and they have very high standards for the quality of work they require from their doctoral students. Totally worthwhile, but definitely not an easy route or a way to bypass traditional doctoral requirements.
     
  7. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member


    I second that emotion. LOL/
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    There are exactly zero legitimate institutions will care about your "professional knowledge". You can find institutions that are research only, but it will take years to finish. Just getting enrolled will take a long time.

    By the way, note that words aren't capitalized for emphasis in English. Proper nouns like names are always capitalized; common nouns are not. (I'm pointing this out not to be a troll, but because it sounds like you'll be doing a great deal of writing in order to reach your goals.)
     
  9. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    He asked about a PhD. Are you referring to the Doctor of Commerce or the Doctor of Administration? I don't see any PhDs. It might not matter to the OP, but it might.
     
  10. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Either way is OK with me. If he wants to pay 1000% more money in order to get the preferred letters then I don't mind.
     
  11. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    MDX has a D.Prof. that might interest you. It takes a lot of digging but MDX has a DL option.
    DProf Professional Practice Business School
    But MDX will not just give you a degree.
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    NO! This isn't possible at Union, nor was it ever.

    In many countries, a Ph.D. by thesis is the accepted path, but this takes either 3 years of full-time study or 6 years of part-time study. Not exactly fitting the "URGENTLY" criterion the OP proffered.
     
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    No. You're wrong and out of your league. The poster "basselthorn" is incorrect, both regarding foreign universities and Union. As for the Ph.D by dissertation, it takes 3 years of full-time study or 6 years part-time. It isn't a sliding scale; it's "either/or." Get it right.
     
  14. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    And MDX is?
     
  15. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Virtually, every university in the UK has a PhD by dissertation only. Many schools allow part time PhDs by research. Notice that these programs are not being advertised as distance learning but in many cases you can negotiate distance supervision provided that you are able to meet at least once.

    However, these programs are not meant for professionals working full time in demanding jobs but for university faculty that needs to upgrade to a PhD for a better pay and research is already part of the jobs.

    It sounds like the OP believes that this type of program would be a shortcut to a PhD because it doesn't have course work based on the comments. This is wrong, most of these programs are even more demanding than american PhDs and many require publications before graduation unlike many american schools that do not require these.

    Also, this type of programs are expensive if you are not an european citizen, be ready to pay more than 10K british pounds a year during six years to get this degree as an international student.

    The OP might be better of with a DBA that is more oriented towards working professionals. The difference is that the dissertation can be applied to the working environment and most do not require academic publications.

    The OP can found many names for distance DBAs that are research only if he or she does a search in this forum. However, this type of DBAs require at least 5 years of part time work.

    If the OP is looking for a "quickie", he or she better off take any of the online PhD from online schools that are structured enough and designed for the working professional that might still need at least 3 years. I know few people that completed the DM of UoP in 3 years that requires online course work and a dissertation.
     
  16. RC05

    RC05 New Member

    Yes, I've seen the UNISA pages - but the process is not quite so clear. Can I submit a dissertation and if I qualify ..... be granted a PhD ?
     
  17. RC05

    RC05 New Member

    For a job in academia - they insist on a PhD. Would D.Prof / DB qualify as equivalents ?
     
  18. RC05

    RC05 New Member

    Point taken Steve .....thanks :)
     
  19. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Rich, you are learned and highly valued member of this board. I always read what you write because you generally know your stuff.

    Request: Please remember to be kind. There is no benefit in starting more conflicts and rudness weakens your image. I would really appreciate your cooperation in this.
     
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  20. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I think you don't understand the nature of the dissertation. You cannot just "drop" a dissertation and then expect a PhD. The process is lengthly and requires you to first defend a dissertation proposal, submit drafts of chapters, present at conferences, send the dissertation to examiners, defend, etc.
    On average it would take 6 years part time but it might take even longer depending on the research.

    Also, British, SA and Aussie doctorates require a research masters. If you have an MBA based on course work, you will not qualify for entry at most of the Universities and would need to do a M.Phil first or a B.Sc Honours first. This will add another year.

    You also mentioned that you want the PhD to be a professor, are you sure that a UNISA PhD would meet your needs? Where are you planning to use this doctorate? Yes, most of the professor positions require a PhD but you cannot expect to get a teaching position at a major research american school with a UNISA PhD.
     

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