Vintage Bible College

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  1. doulos

    doulos New Member

  2. David Appleyard

    David Appleyard New Member

    BIBLICAL STUDIES... I assume?

    No accreditation... see first paragraph, last sentence:
    http://www.vintagebiblecollege.org/Accreditation.htm

    Biblical Studies are tough, as some schools have regional accreditation and other do not. Many believe that at the very least the school should be recognized by the Accrediting Association of Bible Colleges (AABC). AABC is recognized by the Commission on Recognition of Post Secondary Accreditation (CORPA) in accordance with standards established by the U. S. Department of Education. They are located in Orlando, Florida and can be reached at: 407-207-0808

    For DL schools, there are many non-resident programs. Without a major I can't narrow the field, but here's a few pertaining to biblical studies:

    Atlantic Union College BA
    Berean College BA MA
    Bethany College BA
    Griggs University BA (DETC approved)
    ICI University BA
    Southwestern Bible College BA/BS
    Southwestern Adventist College BA/BS
    Southwestern Assemblies of God College BS
    Tennessee Temple University BS
    University of South Africa BA MA D

    Hope this helps
     
  3. levicoff

    levicoff Guest

    Freakin' unreal...

    Doulos, bubaleh, you are not off to a very good start. You have either been reading a little too much of Pulpit Helps or Charisma, and you obviously haven't got a clue about academic and professional legitimacy issues. You have asked about NCCA (a cuonseling credential mill) on this board, and now about Vintage, a blatant and obvious degree mill.

    Son, you are either a very naive bro exhibiting zeal without knowledge, or you are a sleazeball who is testing the waters. I"ll give you the benefit of doubt and assume you are the former rather than the latter.

    I suggest you read as many posts on this board as you possibly can. If, after doing so, you still want to enroll in either Vintage or NCCA, then you deserve them. But I suggest you use your head to think with and your butt to sit on, not the other way around.

    Now be a good boy and read 1 Thess. 5:21-22 and 1 John 4:1. And practice your discernment - it is not just a gift, but a technique that can be learned.

    I have spoken. Pax Nabisco. :D
     
  4. doulos

    doulos New Member

    How can they be a degree mill if it takes 4 years to get your BA and another 2 years to get your masters. Not to mention the writing of thesis etc. ? What constitutes a degree mill? Most of what I have seen are those that just say send some money and we will send a degree, or get your degree in two months etc.
     
  5. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Doulos:


    Get an accredited degree. There are many available by DL from good schools. Aside from the obvious other advantages, in your case your" handle" puts you among the "douloi Christou. "These have the responsibilty (eg 1 Tim 3:7) to maintain respectability in the eyes of all. By the way, do you really know NT Greek as the noun you use would imply?
     
  6. doulos

    doulos New Member

    Yes I know New Testament Greek

    I have taken it at Vintage Bible College.
     
  7. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Doulos:

    I am glad you know Greek. Apply to the issue at hand-what school to go to-the diligence and intelligence you have shown to acquire the knowledge of Greek. It is an easy assignment. I want what is best for you. Accreditation is!
     
  8. levicoff

    levicoff Guest

    Because, you potential pain-in-the-butt idiot who probably thinks he can impress people because he chose a Greek username, the length of time it takes to get a degree is irrelevant. I can start a paper mill today, claim that it will take you four years to get a BA plus two more for a master's. Will that, in itself, make my scam legitimate?

    From the almost minute-and-a-half I spent on the Vintage web site, three things immediately stick out: (1) They operate under a religious exemption to licensure yet purport to grant degrees through the doctoral level, (2) Their online catalogue has no indication of faculty credential sources, a standard feature of all legitimate schools, and (3) Their website uses a .com extension.

    I have neither the time nor inclination to do a full analysis of Vintage's web site. And your attitude is so defensive at the start that you might be a shill for them anyway. I have already given you my recommendation: Read all the posts you can on this board. But don't expect everyone else to do your work for you.

    Now, you piss-ant twit, I suggest that you start doing your research. Because, as I said, if you enroll with either Vintage or NCAA (whose theories are used by Vintage although that is not disclosed - and don't ask me how I know, as you would never understand it), you deserve them.

    And if you find someone here with the inclination to do so, or you want to develop your research skills, try to find a copy of the NIFI Criteria used to identify religious and other degree mills. Someone may be more charitable in zipping them to you. I, however, am outta here. :D
    ___________________

    No, Steve is not in a patient mood today. :p

    Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!
     
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Yes I know New Testament Greek

    Doulos,

    I am pleased that you have taken coursework in the biblical languages. I also like your posting name. Another term which would be advantageous in this particular discussion is sophia . Do your research and exercise wisdom in your academic pursuits.

    I am somewhat acquainted with VBC, having pastored in the same county as Curtis Wood (1992). I visited the campus of VBC when it was on the second floor of a commercial building, on Stratford in Winston Salem. While I cannot speak regarding the motive/sincerity of Rev. Wood in establishing VBC, I can address the issue of accreditation/recognition/utility of a VBC degree. VBC may indeed be a sincere effort at providing training for those in ministry, however, the utility of the degree will be miniscule.

    VBC is not accredited. This is critical in pursuing further degree programs or in transferring credits. One may use the VBC degree in a limited capacity, however, the degree would not allow admission into areas such as: C.P.E., RA degree programs, faculty positions at legitimately accredited schools, military chaplaincy, etc.
     

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