The United States has no Federal Ministry of Education or other centralized authority exercising single national control over postsecondary educational institutions in this country. The States assume varying degrees of control over education, but, in general, institutions of higher education are permitted to operate with considerable independence and autonomy. As a consequence, American educational institutions can vary widely in the character and quality of their programs. US Government Bottom line... don't let any degreeinfo trolls try to convince you that "we're OK as long as it is RA".
Don't you have anything better to do than trying to start flame wars? Why not try to provide some useful information about a DL institution with which you are familiar? Constantly ripping on the US does no one any good. Jeff
Ken, PLEASE stop repeating the same point over and over and over and over and over again. You are making yourself appear somewhat obsessed, to say the least!
Ken, Nonsense! If it is RA then it is ok for utility and some guarentee of academic standards. Not perfect but it beats the heck out of current state standards which vary from business license to some standards (although even in the case of California this has been questioned as to whether it is anywhere near RA). My own feeling is that states should develop their own state regulatory bodies to actually accredit schools. States could get together to achieve some agreement with regard to standards and acceptance. I know in the case of other regulatory situations, state regulation is a bargain for the entities being regulated. This could help eliminate the problem of expense for poorer beginning schools but would still protect consumers. North
Ken, you still haven't answered my question as to what school(s) awarded your degree(s), if any. Of course, I'm not expecting an answer. If history truly repeats itself, you'll ignore the question until it becomes a little too obvious that you're hiding something, at which point you'll pull a disappearing act. Who wants to lay an over/under? Bruce
Lets make it interesting..........Ken will leave the board on April 13 at 1:55 pm gmt. Next? But we can always pray for an earlier departure......
Of course, the very next paragraph on the same webpage goes on to tell us that this lack of centralized government regulation led to the evolution of a private non-governmental accreditation system to address the QA function. For some reason Ken failed to mention that. http://www.ed.gov/offices/OPE/accreditation/accredus.html
North, The point is that (and the gov states this further down the piece) that RA should be a required but insufficient criteria to choose a school... because RA provides on a "basic" level of quality, other things should be consider to ensure it meets a students needs. However, this advice from the US federal government is seldom recognized on DegreeInfo. It is unfortunate for some students will spend a lot of time & money on "second-best".
Our favorite pet troll (this week using the name Ken) said: "It is unfortunate for some students will spend a lot of time & money on "second-best". Like say ... the UK educational system ? Billy
It's also unfortunate that you continue to ignore my question as to where you spent your time & money. From what schools did you earn your degree(s), if any? When you pretend to pontificate on the relative value of US vs. other degrees, it's a very fair question to ask the source of your degree(s). That's assuming that you have any degrees whatsoever, which I'm starting to doubt at this point. Someone help me out here....I predict that Ken will try to justify his refusal to answer my simple question by claiming he had me on his "ignore" list. So, anyone who is so inclined, please repeat my question to him. Bruce
Plus ca change... http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=77m3vh%24p1%241%40nnrp1.dejanews.com Cheers,
Sorry Ken but I couldn't find quote relating to RA. What I did find was the following: "Private educational associations of regional or national scope have adopted criteria reflecting the qualities of a sound educational program and have developed procedures for valuating institutions or programs to determine whether or not they are operating at basic levels of quality." Did I miss something? David L. Boyd
