I recently rec'd a brochure from U of Glasgow in UK. Their DBA program seems attractive and interesting. It is a work-based learning program that requires 560 postgrad credit points. There are a series of learning goals that a learner needs to define and gets approval from his Glaswgow's acadamic supervisor. No residency requirement until it is time for a learner to undertake an oral exac as his/her final assessment. This (part-time) program requires learner to have a MBA or equivalent background, it seems to be one of those pure research-based programs. I have sent email to ask for additional information. Does anyone on the forum have experience with Glasgow in general or its DBA program? PS: Cost is quite high, 5K pounds/yr. (not sure how they charge part-time learner). Jason
The University of Glasgow was founded in 1451 making it Scotland's second oldest university, after The University of St. Andrews (where Prince William studies). It is an excellent school. It's Business School has achieved a ranking of 4 in the most recent research assessment exercise (RAE2001). RAE's ranking system is 1, 2, 3b, 3a, 4, 5, 5*. http://www.rae.ac.uk/results/byinst/H-0168.htm The ranking of 4 is defined as follows: "Quality that equates to attainable levels of national excellence in virtually all of the research activity submitted, showing some evidence of international excellence." http://www.rae.ac.uk/Pubs/other/raeguide.pdf The University of Glasgow itself is generally ranked very high in most UK league tables. The two most prominent rankings are the Financial Times Top Universities Guide and The Times Good Universities Guide. In the 2001 Financial Times Ranking, Glasgow ranked 20th out of 97 UK universities. It is considered one of the UK's top schools. The University of Glasgow is also a founding member of "Universitas 21", which is an international association of research-based universities. Universitas 21 consists of the following international universities: McGill University (Canada) University of British Columbia (Canada) University of Michigan (United States) University of Virginia (United States) National University of Singapore (Singapore) University of Hong Kong (China) Peking University (China) Fudan University (China) University of Birmingham (United Kingdom) University of Edinburgh (United Kingdom) University of Glasgow (United Kingdom) University of Nottingham (United Kingdom) Lund University (Sweden) University of Frieburg (Germany) University of Melbourne (Australia) University of New South Wales (Australia) University of Queensland (Australia) University of Auckland (New Zealand) http://www.universitas.edu.au/members.html#top As you can see, The University of Glasgow keeps excellent company. No questionable schools in this list! Any degree from The University of Glasgow is internationally respected. No one in their right mind would question the validity of a degree obtained from Glasgow, regardless of delivery. If it is a DBA you want, then Glasgow would be a good choice. Good luck!
Are you suggesting that a Glasgow DBA is more respectable than a Phd from Touro University International... surely you jest.
Founded very recently Touro University International is regionally accredited as a "branch campus" of Touro College. Touro College is a ranked FOURTH-TIER (and last tier) college. Little known internationally, despite its name, TUI is a the self-desbribed "leading Internet university" that caters to people who cannot pursue traditional degrees. That about covers it.
Because U of Glasgow is such a well respected school, I was pleased to find that they were doing some DL work. Their GUIDE program (Glasgow University Initiative in Distance Education) looked pretty good, especially that Masters degree program in Philosophy...until I contacted the Philosophy Dept. itself and I was informed, in a relatively curt manner, that the Philosophy Dept. was in no way associated with GUIDE and that no Philosophy degree was available by DL from their school. However, the GUIDE website had, and continues to have, a listing for that degree program. I check back periodically but nothing has changed. The moral of the story...don't believe everything you see on the internet, regardless to the source. Jack
"Ken", I hope that you realize that you and "Scott Henley" are doing no service to British education on this board. If you guys jump into every discussion of British education with insults and sarcasm, whether directed at Touro in particular or at American education in general, all you will end up accomplishing is making the readers of Degreeinfo start associating British education with attitudes and assholes. If you take a dog and hit it with a stick every time a bell is rung, it will expect to get hit whenever it hears a bell. You are conditioning us in much the same way to expect hostility whenever we think of British universities. Frankly, I'm less apt to enroll in a British, Canadian or an Australian program after reading Degreeinfo. Graduate study by DL is hard enough without having to cope with a dissertation advisor or a department chairman that shares your hostile attitude towards Americans. I'm not sure how widespread these kind of attitudes are in Commonwealth academia, and I'm not sure that I want to find out. It's probably the opposite of what you intend, but both of you are making some pretty good arguments for sticking to programs in one's own country.
Hey Bill I am a Canadian soon moving to New Zealand. I have no problem at all with American students at commonwealth schools or legitimate American Universities. I am a proud 100% redcoat British loyalist commonwealther and I will say flat out that if any commonwealth university discriminates against U.S. students they should be ashamed and embarrassed. In my eyes an RA American University degree is every bit as valid as a RA equivalent degree from any other country on the worlds map. God Bless America! God Save the Queen!
When I contacted them more than a year ago I got a polite response that they had hoped to develop such a course but that it had been put on hold indefinitely. Meantime Open University has developed an MA in Philosophy with about 125 initial enrolments. This started last month. Malcolm S Jenner
Rich, are you in that much denial that you cannot accept that there are two people, myself and Ken, that may share similar opinions? Yes, Rich, it's true. No everyone is in denial. Not everyone unquestionably accepts DL degrees. There are people out there who believe that traditional education from respectable schools is the way to go. The definition of "respectable" is not synonymous to RA, alhough there are RA schools that are respectable. Unfortunately, these people who share this opinion are found much higher up the IQ ladder except the few of US who are here for observation purposes.... observing "rats in a maze", if you will. Regards, Scott
Malcolm - Thanks for that tidbit of info. I plan to check it out. I understand that Glasgow may be having some difficulties in implementing their DL program(s) and hope that these problems are quickly solved. I guess that my main point is simply this: If the program doesn't really exist, that is, if it really isn't up and running, then the website should reflect this reality (instead of saying the exact opposite). I'm no webmaster, but how hard can it be to make a small text modification on the web site? The implication is that they don't pay attention to details that effect their (prospective) students. Not good advertising. Jack
