Law schools inflate job placement figures

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by me again, Mar 16, 2012.

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  1. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

  2. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    Buyer beware I guess. Gambling 135K on an education is very risky.
    I just hope she doesn't expect me to pay off her loan.
     
  3. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    Shocker. Seems like the thing to do lately. Just the other day both the Fire Department of New York and the LA FD got caught inflating the number of their responses.
     
  4. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    New York city is one of the most corrupt in the USA. Maybe second only to Chicago, home of Blago.
     
  5. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Fire departments everywhere are trying to inflate their call volume, because their fire prevention efforts in the 1960's and 1970's paid-off, so there are rarely any big fires anymore. As a result, they roll on every medical call and vehicle crash, even when they're not needed.

    I can't tell you how many times I've gone to a fender-bender and tried to cancel fire & EMS. The EMS units always acknowledge the cancellation, but fire won't cancel, because they then won't get credit for the "run", which they then use to justify their budget. When they do show up at minor calls, all they do is exacerbate the already bad traffic problem, then leave when I insist they're not needed.

    As for law school graduates, caveat emptor. I can't speak for other states, but we're positively flooded with law school graduates, so unless you're a graduate of a top-tier law school, you're looking at a career as either a district court-level prosecutor/public defender at poverty wages, or chasing ambulances for personal injury cases.

    I had a teacher at Quincy College for Constitutional Law who was an attorney who graduated from a Tier 4 law school; his main practice was being a public defender, but he did adjunct teaching at night and mowed lawns for his brother's landscaping company on the weekends in order to make ends meet.
     
  6. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    I am not really interested in starting a police v. fire war here, but............

    Fire departments that do not not acknowledge they are now EMS Departments first, fire second are a dying breed. In our system, you get a fire engine on every 911 EMS call and a private ambulance if needed. Yes, we go on a lot of calls where we are not needed, but we are not the ones who initiate the call and we are required to respond by law. As soon as the call is dispatched, "credit" is given for the call. There is no need to inflate run numbers, because funding is not tied to call volume.

    If you really want to stop the fire trucks from going on unnecessary EMS calls - educate people that 911 is not for toothaches, diarrhea, inflamed athlete's foot, etc.

    Maybe we should follow law enforcement's lead and have people phone in a report and not bother to respond:headbang:.
     
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  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Imagine that!
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    When my son Graham was 6, he was told all about 911 but cautioned only to use it for an emergency. Shortly thereafter, he called 911 and told them, "My sister is annoying me and it's an emergency!"

    We clarified things, so no repeats. But it probably helps that they didn't send a fire truck or I expect he'd have found some reason to call them every day. :smile:
     
  9. SouthernGent

    SouthernGent New Member

    On Job Inflation

    Law schools are very clever at inflating the numbers. I know of several institutions, including my own, that hires recent graduates to work as library aides (traditionally an undergraduate student workers' job) part-time to help inflate numbers. By giving several of them 10-15 hours per week, that knocks out a significant percentage of those that are at the bottom 20% of the class.
     

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