looking for degree from Army pilot friendly place

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  1. ewd

    ewd New Member

    I am a ex-Army pilot. Currently flying for a living. I am looking for a shift in the aviation business.

    I need to finish college. I have some basics out of the way.

    I don't really care what the degree is in right now. My performance in my field has made the job possible. I just need the piece of paper to fill the requirement. Time is critical and I do want it to be accredited. Other than that it can be in bottle opening, it does not matter. I would like to get a masters later in a field that interests me.

    thanks for your time
     
  2. GBrown

    GBrown New Member

    Look at embry-riddle aeronautical university for professional aeronautics... http://www.erau.edu

    Look at excelcior for their associate programs for aviators

    http://www.excelsior.edu/

    Both schools will grant over 30 hours for flight school.

    Good luck from another Army aviator (Chinooks!).
     
  3. 4Q

    4Q New Member

  4. Tracy Gies

    Tracy Gies New Member

    Since you are no longer on active duty, you (unfortunately) aren't eligible for an AARTS transcript, but AARTS offers advice for former Army personnel at this URL:

    https://aarts.leavenworth.army.mil/Alternatives.htm

    Some of their suggestions may help you to maximize credit for your Army training.

    I went with Charter Oak State College which granted me 36 credits by ACE evaluation of my military training (basic training, MOS 11C, MOS 98G, PLDC, BNCOC, Defense Language Institute, and National Cryptologic School). I suspect that if you can locate the proper documentation for your training, any of the RA assessment colleges (TESC, Excelsior, and COSC) would award a substantial amount of credit. Since it doesn't matter what the degree is in, I would suggest COSC; I *believe* they have the lowest fees.

    Tracy Gies<><
    B.S., Individualized Studies, Charter Oak State College, Nov 2001
    98G, SSG(P)
     
  5. ewd

    ewd New Member

    I just found this site and need to be educated on the different types of accreditation.

    I thought I has found what I needed. But, now I am not sure.

    Will the FBI take a degree from Exceslior or TESC. I am a ex-Army now commercial pilot that just wants a degree to get the job. I would like to get a Masters late in a subject that appeals to me.

    Thanks for the help before I sink money and time in the wrong direction.
     
  6. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Hi Ewd

    Excelsior and TESC are both Regional Accredited which is the highest for a US school. They both have good reputations. The next question is are they acceptable for the type of position you are looking for. I would assume yes but if there is any doubt I would check further to be sure. Are you looking for a position with the FBI or as a pilot? You could call and find out if a RA distance learning degree is accepted. It may be possible to search the internet to see if people holding a degree from these schools have worked at the type of position you are looking for. I hope this is of help. If you have other questions please let us know.
     
  7. Tracy Gies

    Tracy Gies New Member


    This comes from the FBI's Special Agent Employment/Vacancies web site at http://www.fbi.gov/employment/agent2.htm :

    "Applicants must possess a four-year degree from a college or university accredited by one of the regional or national institutional associations recognized by the United States Secretary of Education."

    I had thought at one time that the FBI had specifically excluded recipients of DL degrees from employment as special agents. It appears as though that may no longer be the case. Since Excelsior, TESC, and COSC are all RA, degrees from those institutions will not necessarily be a reason for exclusion. In fact, it looks like they will even consider applicants who possess DETC-accredited degrees.

    Tracy Gies<><
     
  8. infinitesadness

    infinitesadness New Member

    People shouldnt place such an emphasis on which college you graduate from. Just be sure that its an RA college. As for "will the FBI take a degree from Excelsior or TESC"? That depends on the applicant. Computer Scientists from MIT have been known to be turned down by the FBI because, although they passed all written tests, they failed miserably on the physical/athletic tests.

    Just because someone has a college degree, it doesnt automatically ensure them the job of thier choice. Less than 10 percent of all applicants to the FBI actually become agents.

    Good luck
     
  9. wfready

    wfready New Member




    Tracy, they changed this VERY recently. It used to be just regionally accredited RESIDENT degrees. Apparently, things have change in their view of education.

    Bill
     

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