Would you go for it !!! please advise me

As you guy may know I was looking for doctorate program in business , but after I have talked with few people in this website .I thought it would be better idea to go for another MBA but aacsb this time (the MBA I have from Strayer University USELESS )I have apply for hundred Jobs never got a call :dunno: . there are couple schools offer MBA aacsb Online program cost under 20k Colorado state university , Texas A & M . but I am still confusing should I go for executive MBA or just MBA ?? Do you think MBA aacsb accredited university will guaranteed me a good job in one of big corporation ?Do you think spending 20k on MBA AACSB is a good investment (already have a student loan )? please advise me :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

 

Hello MCJON77 ,
I have few years experience in public sector I'm interesting in marketing and I think that what i want to do for living working as brand manager , sales ,marketing ,public relation . I do speak Arabic and some Spanish .most affordable MBA programs not in my regional area .do you think executive MBA AASCB will be more efficient since i have MBA ?? .

 

I really do not think another MBA will help. Have you considered an on campus certificate where you can network? Have you looked at any international marketing positions that will give you an edge using your language background? It is a tough market and to "blame" a Strayer MBA for a lack of offers might be misdirected.

 

I would tend to agree. The Strayer MBA is likely not to blame, surely not solely and not always. Your remiss is flawed. Employers look at what else, largely intangibles & skills, not just education.

 

Is English not your first language? This may be a factor.

In reading your posts, it does appear that you lack fluency in the English language. Your use of punctuation is odd, and numerous grammatical errors exist in your posts.

I do understand that not everyone will write at publication level on this website, but the errors I see on this thread seem to be more prevalent than one would expect from informality.

If your resume has these kind of errors, that would explain why you are getting little traction in the job market. Although I am not currently in management, I have been in such a position before, and I would never bother to contact someone with multiple errors on a resume. I might overlook a minor error (although some managers won't even do this!), but a pattern of error sends one of two messages: 1) You lack the precision necessary to write a decent resume, or 2) You are too apathetic to proofread. Either one of these messages is fatal to your application.

 

If your resume has these kind of errors, that would explain why you are getting little traction in the job market. Although I am not currently in management, I have been in such a position before, and I would never bother to contact someone with multiple errors on a resume. I might overlook a minor error (although some managers won't even do this!), but a pattern of error sends one of two messages: 1) You lack the precision necessary to write a decent resume, or 2) You are too apathetic to proofread. Either one of these messages is fatal to your application.[/QUOTE]

There is no reason for an error of any kind on a resume -- there are too many ways to check the resume before mailing or taking to an interview.

 

I don't even have one MBA but I can promise you that if I did I'd NEVER go out and earn another. Think of it this way: If I earned a Masters degree in Statistics and then didn't immediately get a job, would my next step be to earn a second Masters degree in Statistics? I think not.

 

Hello Randell ,
I am not balame it completely at strayer university ,but I have friends who finished MBA from AACSB schools in same years, with no work experience and they got hired immediately by IBM , Johnson &Johnson . What kind of certificate do you recommend ? what do you think of the executive MBA program ?

 

Kizmet ,
you're words make sense ,But I am considering executive MBA option .

 

Hi Psydoc,
English is my second language , and to be honest I don't pay a lot of attention to grammar and when I'm writing here ,would you care if your friend has a gammar mistake while your having a conversation with him ? and surly in academia environment I pay a whole lot of attention . however, I have had checked my resume with two resume expert and I can assure you its perfect .

 

It would still benefit you, in my opinion, to develop a greater fluency in the language. Employers sometimes do care about grammatical mistakes in casual speech, especially if your job involves interaction with the public.

In an economy like this, employers are not forced to settle for anything. They can demand total fluency.

 

I agree with you , Do you think executive MBA from public school will help me get a Job in one of the top name corporation .

 

Fadia,

I agree with all of the replies you've received, so far. I do not think earning a second MBA, whether it is an executive-style degree or AACSB accredited, will get you the new job opportunities you expect. In my personal situation, I expected certain kinds of job opportunities after I earned my second masters from the Molecular and Microbiology Department of a local state university. Rightly or wrongly, employers are looking for more than a degree when they review potential job applicants. Therefore, I do not think obtaining a second MBA will significantly improve your job prospects. In fact, it might discourage some potential employers who might be taken aback seeing a job candidate with two MBAs. It's unusual.

StefanM and Psydoc raised some valid concerns regarding your apparent English language skills. It might feel unfair, but employers look for strong communication skills, especially from their mid to senior level managers. Since you speak Arabic and some Spanish, maybe you could look into jobs where you could apply those skills (e.g., helping American companies market to Arabic speaking customers). Without knowing your background, it is hard to provide more specific career advice; but I hope you get the general idea. I hope you will consider the overwhelmingly single-sided response to your original posting, which does not suggest that earning a second MBA is a good investment.

 

So it sounds like you've already decided to do it.

I wouldn't. But that's just me.

 

Kizmet , do you think spending 9k on executive MBA for top public school is a waste of time and money ?? Atleast I can seek employment with pride , I will hold a degree from school that won't raise any eyebrow .

 

I've known a few people who had poor luck in the job-seeking market, then went back and got another degree. I can't think of one situation where the additional degree itself "fixed" that particular problem. Too many became multi-degreed people with multiple problems - career and financial, in some cases. I knew of one fella who got two MBA's - the debt incurred prevented him from opening the business he'd originally planned. (Unfortunately, people with multiple business degrees can still make flawed business plans and poor "real world" decisions, it seems.)

I'd bet the only thing the additional study will do for you RIGHT NOW is postpone some of the sting from your unfortunate lack-of-job situation. I'm sympathetic to tour situation - and not against additional education --- but all too often it can be an expensive "non-solution" to job-market problems.

I'm not an employment consultant - and I don't claim my suggestions are worth much - but here goes. As "they" say - "If at first you don't succeed - reduce your expectations." What I mean by that is - maybe you CAN get a job - just not at the level you expected. I'm not saying apply at Burger King, etc. You tell us your forte is sales - there's gotta be someone who will pay successful sales people decently! Particularly if they can sell in two or more languages! Again, there are "right" jobs and "right now" jobs.

Another degree - oh, why not? But only when you're earning money, have a plan and can "pay as you go." Education debt limits opportunities, as the guy with two MBAs found out. I can remember another example, this time from this forum - a person working as a security guard, who had two degrees and was looking to find a way into a DETC or even unaccred. law school, even though they were bumping up against the $130K limit in student loans already. ...Ouch! That's a lifetime of debt!

Johann

PS. I did know one person whose multiple degrees helped him considerably, career-wise. I believe that his persistence, planning and self-knowledge made him successful. Multiple degrees alone would not have done it.

Ken (not his real name - and his wife's not Barbie, either) began his career with two degrees (one in math, one in law.) After working as a lawyer for a while, he decided he'd prefer IT and went back to earn a second Bachelor's - this one in Computer Science. (I think that degree took him about 18 months F/T). For some years, Ken worked successfully, first as a programmer, then as a systems analyst. At the same time, he found he enjoyed teaching computer subjects in the evening, at the local Community College. In fact, he enjoyed teaching so much that he finally "made the leap" and earned his fourth degree - by qualifying as a teacher. Ken's been successful (and as far as I know, happy - which is very important) in teaching for about 20 years, now.

Johann

 

Your Strayer University MBA is regionally accredited and most employers would accept it without question. Employers look for applicants who can best perform in open positions.

If you want a second degree go for one in a different, but compatible academic area, that complements your work skills.



Most good jobs are obtained through networking so you might want to find and join a reputable professional society (this indicates to an employer that you are keeping up with developments in your planned career area).


Another approach to finding jobs in certain areas is through volunteer work with an organization - for example if you wanted to work in the health field then volunteer for the Red Cross. You will meet a lot of people in the health field, some of whom may lead you to an employee.

 

Where will you spend only 9k for an eMBA from a "top public school?" Most eMBA programs are quite pricey, and "top" programs can be even more pricey.

I would also be sure that it really is a "top" public school.

If you are thinking about Texas A&M, make sure it's TAMU-College Station, not TAMU-Commerce or some other program. While those programs are good programs, they are not "top" programs.

UT-Austin, sure. UT-Arlington, no.

Now, if you want to do a Harvard MBA, I'd say go for it, but I'm positive THAT won't cost anywhere near 9k.

 

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