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  1. Art Vandelay

    Art Vandelay member

    I am hearing alot about ACCIS degree programs any thoughts on this institution
     
  2. Waxhawbud

    Waxhawbud New Member

    Wait a minute, is this George? Did Kramer put you up to this?
     
  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It is not regionally accredited (RA). It is only DETC accredited. RA is the standard in the USA and will be accepted more readily than DETC.

    I suggest that you do a search on ACCIS and pick up more information.
     
  4. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    By most accounts, their current curriculum is decent.

    However, the school has a very checkered past... so much so that they presumably changed their name to get away from it.

    The school is owned by Lloyd Clayton, who runs a string of less-than-ethical schools. All claim fraudulent accreditation. And ACCIS (then AICS) proudly advertised a fraudulent accreditor right up until they day they received DETC accreditation.

    When asked why they were claiming accreditation from an organization they *knew* to be bogus, the AICS president reported that it was for "marketing purposes."

    In other words, she knowingly and actively deceived prospective students using a phony accreditor.

    Not the sort of place that I'd want to be affiliated with.

    And when you add that to the fact that (a) ACCIS isn't regionally accredited, and your degree will therefore be more liimited in its utility than a degree from an RA school would be, and (b) there are many regionally accredited schools, some of which are less expensive than ACCIS

    there are few valid reasons that one can find to justify pursuing ACCIS.
     
  5. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member


    Okay, Chip, given the above (and there is enough empirical evidence to believe the above), why would someone choose ACCIS? Is it a matter of ease, poor research of potential schools, or what?


    Tom Nixon
     
  6. DCross

    DCross New Member



    Lloyd Clayton, Restricted in Alabama for a while.....Yadda yadda yadda!


    Anyway, choose another program
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    All these people saying true things about ACCIS that are scary, I have to repeat some good things that have been said about ACCIS (just to be fair).

    1. A very nice free pencil was included with the material to at least one student.
    2. When I called them on the phone and asked if I could validate a degree, they knew right off that I wanted to validate someone elses claim to a AICS degree and not that I wanted to validate that my check had cleared and that I would be getting my ordered diploma in the mail soon. (Which has happened when I called a degree mill.)
    3. Students/graduates have said that they liked ACCIS. As a matter of fact I don't recall anyone ever saying that they were very dissatisfied with going to school there. (Note: In my opinion this is not necessarily a great thing. It can mean that sometimes they just let students slide along without learning anything which is bad if you're an alumni because it hurts your reputation to have incompetent people claiming degrees from your school.)
     
  8. kgec

    kgec New Member

    The first time I looked at AICS was after reading their classified ad in the Herald Palladium in southwest Michigan. Their curricula looked pretty much like those I'd expect from the University of Michigan, which is another nice thing to say about them (ACCIS).

    Moreover, I'd bet that U of M has a lot more disgruntled customers than ACCIS, but that shouldn't be taken as a slur against Michigan.

    Regards.
    TommyK
    (Awaiting MSU/NC State game (Noon, Friday) on pins and needles)
     
  9. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    Honestly, I think

    1. People see the ads (which are everywhere) and get the snazzy prospectus, and are sold, and this happens because


    2. A lot of folks are inherently lazy. They don't do research, don't look any further, don't figure out that there are other, less expensive programs. This is amazing to me, since I think that the same people, asked whether they'd drop 5 grand on anything else without careful investigation, would be a lot more careful. In addition,

    3. A lot of the better schools do a terrible job of letting people know they exist. I'm hopeful that degreeinfo will be an even more effective tool in helping people to change this within the next few months.

    4. Since, prior to DETC accreditation, ACCIS' staff clearly had no problem defrauding potential students about their phony accreditation, there's no reason to believe that they are any more honest in any other part of their pitch, then or now. If they could justify fraud on the basis of "marketing", then they can probalby justify telling students just about anything.
     

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