Would you hire someone who spent $125K on an umimpressive bachelor's degree?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by SurfDoctor, Oct 2, 2011.

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  1. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    This is a hypothetical question asked solely for the purpose of discussion.

    I am asking this in relation to the thread about Full Sail U where you pay up to $100K for a degree that is not even RA. I was just musing on the thought that I might question the common sense of someone who I interview for a job if they were sporting bachelor's degree of questionable utility that they went into heavy debt to obtain. Especially if it were not even RA. I would ask myself whether they would have enough common sense to do a good job for me. I surely wouldn't hire them as a financial manager.

    Of course, that would exclude anyone who held an expensive degree applying to a profession that required a such a degree. That may be expensive, but it is an investment.
     
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  2. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    According to the US Dept. of Education, for the 2009–10 academic year, annual costs for undergraduate tuition, room, and board were estimated to be $12,804 at public institutions and $32,184 at private institutions. For private institutions, then, the average cost is more than $128,000 for four years -- well above your $100K level.

    Wouldn't your criterion make it difficult to hire anyone who did not attend a state university?
     
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  3. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    You are right. I'm going to revise my question to be a little more clear. Please look at it again now that I have changed it.
     
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  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    If I were hiring someone with a degree, my only question would be if the school was legitimately accredited. What the person paid for their education is their own business, and none of my concern.
     
  5. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    If they are willing to spend their own money (or someone else's with loans) with such little regard for return on investment would you trust them to make decisions for your company?
     
  6. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    My point exactly. Thank you for saying it better than I did.
     
  7. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    It depends on what the degree was....if I were hiring someone to be the comptroller for my company and they had a creative writing degree, then I might question why the change in career goals, but I'm not going to look-up the tuition costs of every school I see on a resume.
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    There are all sorts of reasons one might not pay the sticker price, at least out of pocket. Maybe an employer had a program that covered it for them. Maybe that had a trust fund that could only be used for college. Maybe they had a relative who worked for the institution.

    Or, maybe they just found the school was the best one for for them and that it was worth it to them to spend the money on it. Since someone with a Bachelor's statistically will make a million dollars more in their life than a high school graduate, even at $100K the ROI is better than most investments these days.

    As for Full Sail not being regionally accredited, so what? It's still well known in its area, that of the digital creative arts. Asking about regional accreditation may be a good place to start, but if you shut off your brain at that point you're not getting the whole picture.
     
  9. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member


    Presuming I knew about the tuition costs and the financial decision making ability of the applicant was relevant to the position and they also had bad credit, yes I'd be apprehensive about hiring the person becuase they'd be a theft risk.

    That's a lot of presuming and other factors that need to fall into place for that to happen however, and I'd imagine it'd affect a small number of applicants.

    Far more likely that I'm never going to notice in the first place as I don't hire finance or cashier people. I do openly discriminate against UoP and Capella and make no bones about it, for far less reason.
     
  10. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    May I ask why?
     
  11. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    Experience with both schools and the graduates I've interviewed. Not impressed.
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Conversely, my experience with faculty members and alumni of those two schools has been mostly positive. Even if it hadn't, though, I'd evaluate candidates based on a lot more than just that one item.
     
  13. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Do you feel that way about all online schools?
     
  14. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    About schools that have online programs? No
    About schools that are only online? - Depends on the school.

    To those who are trying to paint a canvas such that this thread can explode into 10 pages of nonsense, stop. I have an issue with UoP and Capella based on my experiences which can certainly be different from anyone else's. I'm not telling anyone that their opinion should be different and I'm certain that no one here is going to change my opinion.

    Not because I don't respect others' opinions but because they're not based on my experiences. If I hadn't routinely been interviewing people with significant experience and name brand degrees I'd probably not be comparing the online school people to the same population.

    By the way: No school alone is going to get you past a recruiter. Some actually do get doors shut on you though.

    Thanks
     
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  15. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    My question was not intended as an attack; I was curious. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
     
  16. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    Understood. I'd just assumed that considering I've got one online only school on my resume/forum signature and UMass Amherst is known for its online MBA that the question would be self-answering unless I was hypocritically aligned :)
     
  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Would I hire the person with the expensive degree? Dunno.

    If Daddy was the local mob-lawyer, owned a chain of funeral homes, endowed a wing of the school (or all 3) - that would explain how the degree was paid for.

    If the person and his/her family were of normal (or below-average) means, then I'd be asking some more questions, for sure.

    Best to have all the facts. Then you don't have to base your decision on one. A longish felony record - now that's a different matter!

    Johann
     
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  18. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Aren't you concerned that you may miss out on good people? I guess my CV would go into the barnfire!
     
  19. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    Read back to my previous replies and apply the anti-snark comments to your post Randell. I discriminate against specific schools and your CV as far as I know based on your forum sig has neither on it.

    As far as missing out on good people, not worried about it, at all for reasons having nothing to do with Capella or UoP.
     
  20. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    What field are you in? Judging by your statements I would guess it is high tech, finance or academia.
     

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