For-Profit College Group Sued as U.S. Lays Out Wide Fraud

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  1. rmm0484

    rmm0484 Member

  2. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    The suit alleges, among other things, that EMC had an unusually flexible approach to online education:

     
  3. rmm0484

    rmm0484 Member

    "unable to write coherently ...."

    "had no computer...."

    I see evidence of #1 everywhere, and as for having a computer, UOP was telling students that they only had to have access to a computer when I was teaching with them. Makes for interesting assignment responses when the student is not using MS Word because they are working from a public library.....
     
  4. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    We all know the ending already, EMC and the Feds will settle, EMC will admit no wrongdoing, write a big check, raise tuition, and use the Title IV funds to pay...
     
  5. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Let's not overlook #2:

    "appeared to be under the influence of drugs"

    The recruitment of drug addicts at homeless shelters by the University of Phoenix (and other for-profit schools) was documented in news stories last year. But it turns out these individuals are not necessarily the best candidates for college-level studies:

     
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  6. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    I was kind of thinking the same thing...if they settle they will use the ill-gotten gains to pay them off.
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Not having one's own computer is not inherently a deal breaker here. The students could use Google Docs or Zoho or a similar web-based word processor, then export the document in Word format to submit it. No installation of Word on the machine in question would be required.
     
  8. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    TESC and NCU allow RTF format documents which almost any computer can produce.
    I have worked with people with masters degrees who cannot write coherently and the students I interact with on the discussion forums at TESC also have horrible writing skills. Some of their writing wouldn't even pass for a C level 7th grade student.
     
  9. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    If you operate a school under federal rules that prohibit rewarding recruiters based on the number of students that they enroll, then probably you should be a bit more judicious with your choice of e-mail clip art:

    EMC's now-famous "Bling Bling" clip art is dutifully reproduced on p. 47 of the original complaint, which further comments that "This oft-used email reflects the sales techniques used on a daily basis that equates an ADA's [Assistant Director of Admissions] enrollment success with increased compensation".
     
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