Hello again, Does anyone know of any Latin courses that could be taken by distance tuition for college credit? I have done some *very* elementary readings in my free time but really have no foundation. My end goal would be to have enough proficiency to pass some state tests and then eventually get an endorsement added to my teaching certificate. So that others are already aware, I am already familiar with the Postgraduate Licence from Trinity St. David (U. of Wales). While I was unable to get a direct response from anyone there about the fees for external study for foreign students, my impression is that they are not the least bit cheap. Thanks for your help, Messdiener
Kizmet, I only see the one link, and it doesn't seem to be working. I get an error message when I pull it up. Would you mind trying to send them again? Thank you, Messdiener
Try this: http://www.is.lsu.edu/courselist.asp?cat=Latin&nid=102&pg= If it doesn't work, you CAN STILL get there. Click on the "course list" button at the top of the page with an error message and you can get to LATIN from the list. BTW - As Kizmet doubtless knows, LSU has the lowest-priced RA distance courses around. It's unfortunate that they don't offer enough for any complete degree. Just tried my link and it seems to work. Real mystery, as it looks identical to Kizmet's which is still not working. Anyway...it's there. Johann
By the way - Trinity St. David's fees for part-time foreigners are here. Full Time Undergraduate - International 2011-12, Tuition Fees, Finance, Departments; University of Wales Trinity Saint David The PG Cert is 60 credits and the Licence is 120 credits. Looks like the Licence equates to a year of full time study (120 credits in UK terms) and if so, should work out to roughly 9,400 pounds, spread over however many academic years it takes to complete the program by distance (2, 3 - maybe? I'm guessing). Today, I think that's around US$15,200. Wow - that's a lot of denarii for what's (today) a pretty unusual qualification! I'm sure it's a top quality program - but it might be a little difficult in the US to explain where a "licence" stands on the degree scale. Back around 1400, it might have been easier! Just found this additional link http://www.trinitysaintdavid.ac.uk/en/finance/tuitionfees/postgraduate-international2011-12/ Part-time postgrad students - nothing similar to this cert posted, but if they charge based on the MA rate, that 9,400 pound figure could increase to 10,000 pounds or so. Pretty steep for a non-standard award. Best to ask them directly, in any case. Johann
Hi This is at the low end of the cost schedule, unlike Trinity St. David.... Only one of the 4 modules is actually Latin Language, but you might find this interesting. It's taught by distance from U. Pretoria in South Africa: Acadamia Latina I doubt if it would result in a teaching credential, but it sure looks like an interesting program, from a quality school.. As with all things South African, currency depreciation has made the fees practically bupkis in terms of U.S. dollars. Last time I looked, all four courses could be completed for around $700 total. If you wanted only the language component, it can be taken by itself. Johann
Here are some more. Hi again (last time today) I picked this up from another thread here at DI. Thanks to member "mattbrent" for the link. Latin (LATN) Online Courses | Georgia Center - UGA Interesting, as it contains a course in teaching Latin. Johann
Thanks, Johann, for the feedback. Perhaps, you could answer a few more questions: Firstly, thank you for the corrected link to LSU. While your link did work, the two courses mentioned are listed as being "on hold" and don't have any other information to read about them. Quite the shame! I'm always up for some inexpensive courses! Also, thanks for doing some more research for me about the costs for the Licence from Trinity St. David. I really wish that the uni would get back to me with some more specific details regarding fees. I sent out notes to the department and someone in the international studies office back in both April and May, but nobody responded from either place. Regarding your comments about the Licence in Latin, I must admit that I myself am not entirely clear with what the award would be exactly. Would it be similar to a graduate certificate here in the States? Is it close at all to an MA? I haven't looked at the page in a while, but I believe that the uni stated that the Licence could be used as a stepping stone to the MA in Classics from the same uni. Any extra clarification on this matter (what the heck a Licence is) would be most welcome! Finally, regarding the course from the University of Pretoria, I realise that it wouldn't count as university credit, but it does look like a good overview to give me some solid background. Have you taken the course? How do you sit for exams from abroad? Also, do you know anything about the other "Oxford Latin" correspondence course offered by Potchefstroom University that the Schola Scripta site mentions?
International Catholic University has a Latin course. It is number 44 on the list. I believe that Holy Apostles allows some of these courses to be used in their Masters program. International Catholic University: Courses (Latin Course #44) International Catholic University: M.A.
University of Alaska (DL courses): University of Alaska Distance Learning Courses University of Wisconsin-Madison (Independent learning courses): Independent Study Classics courses taught by the Dept. of LS&A for UW Independent Learning SUNY-Binghamton University: LAT 397 INDEPENDENT STUDY Binghamton University - Classical and Near Eastern Studies: Courses: Latin University of Glasgow: University of Glasgow :: Scottish Network for Able Pupils :: Latin GCSE UMass-Boston (University College): Online | Fall 2011 Undergraduate Credit Courses | University College at UMass Boston Iowa State University: Elementary and Intermediate Latin Fall 2011 Courses UNC (Self-paced Correspondence): LATN 101 /LATN 102 Distance Education at UNC: Self-paced Courses: Latin Virginia Commonwealth University (School of World Studies): Virginia Commonwealth University - School of World Studies - Latin Language Courses
Hi - I'll do what I can: (1) The Licence is closer to an M.A. than a PG Cert in credit hours, but I have no idea how "close to an M.A" it would be perceived by a NACES-member evaluator or a University here. The PG Cert is 60 credits in UK terms, which is somewhere between 15 and 20 credit hours here. (I'll explain the grey area.) The Licence is 120 credits, which corresponds to at least 30 credits here -possibly more. (See below.) Here's why I see a gray area: A full year's academic work in the UK is 120 credits. A Bachelor's degree is 360 credits - three years' work, in general. In the US a BA is generally 4 years and 120 credits. So, the way I see it, 60 credits (UK) could translate to either half an academic year (15 credit hours) or one-sixth of a degree (20 credit hours) in U.S. terms. (2) No, I haven't taken the courses (yet) but I fully intend to take the series, soon. I had five years of Latin in school, over 50 years ago. I enjoyed it then and can actually remember some, still! It helped immensely in making sense of the grammar systems of other languages! As I recall, I established with U. Pretoria that the exams can be written (and proctored) here. I may have that in writing (email) some place - I'll see. (3) I tried myself (yesterday) to find the Potchefstroom link. U. Potchefstroom is now part of North West University and I was unable to find anything on the site re: distance Latin courses, but I'll keep looking. The site is hard to navigate and not very search-friendly, as I see it. I'll let you know if I find anything. Johann
Thanks for all of your time and effort, Johann! I appreciate. Thanks to everyone else too for the suggestions. I'll take some time to work through all of the links soon!
Finally found the "Oxford Latin" Distance course - Potchefstroom... Hi Messdiener - Here's the link. They didn't make it easy! First in Afrikaans - then scroll down to the English. http://www.nwu.ac.za/export/sites/default/nwu/p-ft/documents/OLCkorrespondensiekursus.pdf Two courses - you get a Cert from the University on completion Ridiculously cheap, in US $. Combined total for BOTH courses including texts, marking etc - around $130! Postage may be extra. Johann
Thanks again, Johann, for all of your help! As many here seem to be up on what's happening with education in South Africa, I thought I'd ask about the Latin courses over there, particularly at the offerings from UNISA. I took a look today at their modules brochure (pages 84-85) and discovered that Latin is no longer being offered as an undergraduate major. Does that mean that some of the courses would still be offered but not for an entire degree? Does anyone have any idea why the degree is being phased out? Are they lacking instructors?
In case you decide to go "the fully monty" route, University of Florida offers an online Master of Arts in Latin, a Master of Latin and a PhD in Latin and Roman Studies.
japhy4529, Thanks for the suggestions. I'd certainly like to continue to that level, but I'd definitely need to do some of the preliminary background courses first. It doesn't seem like there is much out there in the way of complete distance learning degrees at the undergraduate level. Anyway, thanks again. I'll save them for a few years down the road! Messdiener
