Concordia College and Univeristy / St Regis

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  1. Bernard P. Fife

    Bernard P. Fife New Member

    Has anyone ever heard of Concordia College and University along with St. Regis University.
    I was checking into Regis University @ Denver then the above popped up.
    I know there is also a Concordia University.
    Are these knockoff's?
    They have accredited agencies listed on their sites based in DC
    but looking further they all seem linked to different names
     
  2. Tracy Gies

    Tracy Gies New Member

    Hey Barn,

    CC&U has been discussed here before. See this thread

    A quick check of the accreditation page at http://www.saintregisedu.org/Accreditation.htm for Saint Regis shows that they are not regionally accredited. I don't know anything about the accrediting agencies which they do list, but the lack of regional accreditation may (like it or not) prove to be problematic when it comes to transferring credit or using the St. Regis degree as a spring board for post graduate study.

    Now, why don't you and Ange get on down to the dinner before the Blue Plate Special is over! ;)
     
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  3. I wonder at the implications of the pseudonym "Bernard P. Fife"? Bernard P. Fife was the idiot played by Don Knotts in The Andy Griffith Show, but also the name of a type of wheat. ??
     
  4. Bernard P. Fife

    Bernard P. Fife New Member

    Traci

    Thank you very much for the reply.
    I find it amazing that degree mills the likes of St.Regis can get away with what they do.
    Think I will do some research on the "group" that support them.
    The more I searched the site I found all one has to do is send cash and receive a Masters or even a Phd depending on the amount, plus they even have a store!

    The more information posted would be a help to all.

    As for you Mr. Potgieter:
    Your less then thoughtful response was not well received.
    What pseudonym is Gert? I remember Gert from my days in
    the Army, Gert was suffered from lack of basic knowledge
    plus hygene.

    Please keep your idiot insults to yourself.

    Enjoy
     
  5. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    A Google search for "Bernard P. Fife" finds nothing but references to the not-too-bright deputy sheriff of Mayberry.

    A Google search for "Gert Potgieter" finds more than 1,000 South Africans of this name, including popular singers, athletes, and business folk, worldwide.

    Isn't there something in the Terms of Service for this forum about not insulting people?

    If I ran a forum, I think I'd ask people to use their real names. Very old fashioned, I know.

    John Bear,
    who remembers a time when
    people communicated by placing black marks
    on paper, and an anonymous or pseudonymous
    letter was generally a negative concept.

    PS: Where is the "TOS" anyway? I seem unable to find it.
     
  6. Tracy Gies

    Tracy Gies New Member

    Oh, Mayberry--where everybody knows your name.

    Don't forget, though, that Barn was a master of disguises, and he used his cunning and wits to outsmart criminals. So, even with him, what you see ain't always what you get. (Kind of like degree mills--just to keep this sorta kinda on topic.)

    Deputy Fife has, at various times, dressed as a cleaning lady so that he could stake out the bank undetected. He has also dressed in "gangster" garb so that he could try to win the confidence of an organized crime figure taken into custody in Mayberry.

    Of course, each of these attempts at *deception* finally spelled trouble for Barn; once getting him locked in the jail cell, and another time trapping him in a locked bank vault. Good thing Ange came to the rescue.

    Tracy<><
    Who asks you to forgive him since he is something of an Andy Griffith junkie, and who once attended a Bible study that used eposides of the Andy Griffith show to illustrate Biblical precepts, and who has the Mayberry Hometown Cookbook. (Ask me sometime for the recipe for hoot-owl Pie--in which you *may* substitute chicken, just in case you don't happen to have a hoot-owl handy.)
     
  7. I wasn’t really intending to insult anyone. If I was, I would hope that I could have done a better job. I was merely thinking that if someone chooses to post under a pseudonym then s/he would probably pick a character that reflects the persona that s/he wishes to project. (Personally, I like the idea of “Henry Wilt.”)

    I googled “Bernard Fife” and found Mayberry’s finest—and also a type of wheat with that name. Which suggests that the TV character may have been named after the wheat. I’m not sure of the implications of that…

    It’s interesting that the TOS have disappeared. I hope they have indeed.
     
  8. Bernard P. Fife

    Bernard P. Fife New Member

    Thank You Gert

    OK, I confess to all!!!!!;)
    I am a Andy Griffith Show junkie!!
    I did not use my name since coming to the board I see where the majority take names from the Zodiac to their family dog.
    Thus, the Bernard P. Fife.

    See I look at old Barn different. Barn AKA Don Knotts is a
    hometown native of mine. West Virginia.
    I noticed the first thing everyone did here was judge the name.
    I choose to look at a character Mr. Knotts played during his career. I guess the old lesson. Never judge a book by it's cover.

    See old Barn seemed like a baffoon as with all the characters.
    However, all in all Mr. Knotts was and is at 78 an educated well versed businessman with happiness and a net worth higher than most on this board I would guess.

    Now, back to the real reason I posted if we can get past the Barney stuff. I personally was looking at Distance Education
    to complete a Masters in Marketing. I need to look this way to further my career at my present position. Looking through
    Bears Guide I purchased along with Barron I was reviewing schools on the internet. I read about a few mills Mr. Bear listed in his book but did not see that of St. Regis and Concordia.
    Funny when you look up Regis in Colorado and Concordia in Texas and Illinois how easy it is to get into the others.
    Think of it!! $300.00 to $500.00 and you get a Phd.

    I just found it quite interesting how places like that stay in business. With accrediting agencies on top of that.
    Not the not so wonderful WACU but others that have intertwined
    websites.

    Yes, Barney is on another case. A little late but he is checking all avenues. See I have humor to.

    Traci: See you are an Army instructor.
    Barn is an old 101 ABN vet.

    Enjoy All,

    Dave;)
     
  9. Tracy Gies

    Tracy Gies New Member

    Re: Thank You Gert

    Yet another reason to like him. He seems a little light in the britches, though. I bet they had to fill his ruck sack full of rocks just to get him to fall from the plane. ;)

    Tracy<><
     
  10. Bernard P. Fife

    Bernard P. Fife New Member

    Now Tracy

    No, my britches are just fine. Wish they were a little lighter though. The old age spread is starting to hit.

    So, joined in 87. Was in 82-88.
    What exactly do you teach in the Army?

    Maybe I can get a serious answer?

    Dave

    PS :
    Old Barn is actually similiar to you. Married with 4 grown children.
    Don Knotts that is not I. My wife and I are DINKS
    "Dual income, no Kids":D
     
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  11. Bernard P. Fife

    Bernard P. Fife New Member

    Oh yes, Tracy

    Forgot to ask an opinion.

    Since you are a military person.
    What is, or have you any knowledge of,
    American Military University.

    An R/A University with good course opportunities for
    all. A plus for Military personnel and vet's.
    Looked they used to just offer degree's in Military affairs
    but have now branched out to many areas of study.

    Dave:)
     
  12. Tracy Gies

    Tracy Gies New Member

    Re: Oh yes, Tracy



    I teach 98G AIT.

    AMU seems like a fine school, but last time I checked they were DETC-accredited, not RA. I think they offer some reduced tuition rates for military personnel. I believe some of their degrees are fairly unique to that institution. I don't know of any other school that offers degrees in military management, for instance.

    I had, at one time considered going with their undergraduate program in marketing, but went with Charter Oak's program instead, mostly because it allowed me to use the massive amounts of college credit I had already accumulated from various sources.

    Tracy<><
     
  13. Michael Lloyd

    Michael Lloyd New Member

    Can you name the MOS?

    For anyone who is confused as to what is 98G AIT, Tracy is a trainer in electronic warfare/cryptology. Specifically the 98 G MOS (military occupational specialty) is a signal intelligence voice interceptor. Think of someone listening in on radio transmissions.

    Regards,

    Michael Lloyd, who spent some exciting times as a 74 Alpha and really got to use those chemistry degrees.
     
  14. Bernard P. Fife

    Bernard P. Fife New Member

    Tracy. Michael

    AMU has received it's R/A. They have also branched out in other degree programs. Looking through Barrons I thought hmm, R/A but only listed Military programs. Upon further checking they also offer Marketing! Waiting for the paperwork and other information then moving forward. AMU being recognized by the American Council for Education will enable me to receive my tuition reimbursement.

    Ft. Sam I would guess?
    Old Barn was a "Classy Grunt" a 12Boom Boom. then EOD.
    Served with the 101, a stint with the 82nd then back to the 101 as a UN "deputy" in the lovely Middle East in 83.

    Will always honor my service over any degree, pride of service.
    Only bad part about my term was that I served after Uncle Jimmy Carter who removed the GI Bill and replaced it with the dollar for dollar match. ( On an enlisted salary there were not many dollars to match ). Thank God, Reagan brought back the Bill in 86 for the future servicemen and women.

    Also, If you would like a good Military site, try www.military.com
    they also have the boards

    Good Luck with those young cherries Sarge, or should I say Mamm.

    Have to go meet Ang'e at the diner.

    Airborne Out
    Dave;)
     
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  15. Tracy Gies

    Tracy Gies New Member

    Re: Tracy. Michael

    Just checked AMU's website.
    They still claim accreditation under DETC, and mention nothing about RA. Does Barron's list them as RA? If so, perhaps I'm missing something.

    Educational benefits have steadily been getting better over the past few years--although tuition assistance has not returned to the 90% rate it was a long time ago (even before 1987, when I entered active duty.) Army University Access Online (also known as eArmyu) has, thus far, proved to be a remarkable success during its trial run. It is slated to go Army-wide in 2003. The great benefit to distance learners in the Army is that they will be provided with 100% tuition/fee assistance, 100% coverage for cost of books, a free laptop with necessary software (which, as I understand it, they may keep after completing 12 credits), free internet service, and free educational counseling, specifically tailored towards DLers. As for myself, I have decided to with Touro University International for my MBA. They offer members of the military a tuition assistance package that covers the remaining 25% of tuition not covered by the military.

    It's "Sarge" (Staff Sergeant, Promotable). Stationed on Goodfellow AFB, which is home to a few joint-service initial-entry training programs.

    Speaking of classy grunts (if I do say so myself), I used to be an 11C (Indirect-Fire Infantryman, or, more commonly, Mortarman. Perhaps even more commonly, Mortarmaggot) before I re-trained as a 98G when I entered active duty. Worked with the 4.2-inch mortar, more so than the 81mm.

    Tracy<><
     
  16. Bernard P. Fife

    Bernard P. Fife New Member

    SSG(p) Tracy

    I stand corrected. Been looking at to many institutions.
    However, still rec. under ACE. That gets my money back


    Enjoy


    Dave


    National Accreditation

    Accreditation within higher education is a voluntary, nongovernmental process that gives public recognition to institutions that meet certain published standards of academic and administrative quality. The purpose of accreditation is to assure the public as to the quality of an institution and its commitment to high standards through a system of continuous improvement.

    The U.S. Department of Education formally recognizes accrediting commissions that meet all federal standards. Further, the Council on Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) extends recognition to accrediting bodies and their institutions that meet established quality standards. Generally, accrediting bodies fall into three major categories: national, regional, and specialized/professional.

    American Military University is accredited by the Accrediting Commission of the Distance Education and Training Council (DETC). The independent seven member Accrediting Commission of the DETC was established in 1955; shortly thereafter it gained the approval of the U.S. Department of Education as the "nationally recognized accrediting agency" under the terms of Public Law. The DETC recently marked its 75th Anniversary as an accrediting body, and is recognized to accredit distance education programs offered by both U.S. and foreign institutions.

    AMU, as an institution accredited since 1995 (valid through 2004), is eligible to participate in federal educational entitlement programs such as military tuition assistance, government tuition reimbursement programs, the Department of Veterans Affairs GI Bill, and many corporate education assistance programs. Credits and degrees earned through AMU are therefore recognized for promotion, assignment, and position qualification standards within the military and federal government.

    Further information on recognition policies and standards may be found on the following web sites:


    U.S. Department of Education at www.ed.gov


    Council on Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) at www.chea.org


    Distance Education and Training Council (DETC) at www.detc.org


    Defense Activity for Nontraditional Education Support (DANTES) at www.voled.doded.mil


    :cool:
     

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