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    DrJ
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    I tend to agree. The prof I would study under is gifted as well. Free quality biblical education is definitely a win-win.
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    Yeah, I'm really leaning toward it. Emailed prof today to see what texts are required so I can get my hands on them early.

    QUESTION: WHAT ARE THE BEST SEOND-THIRD YEAR GREEK GRAMMARS/LEXICONS/ETC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJ View Post
    Yeah, I'm really leaning toward it. Emailed prof today to see what texts are required so I can get my hands on them early.

    QUESTION: WHAT ARE THE BEST SEOND-THIRD YEAR GREEK GRAMMARS/LEXICONS/ETC?
    Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics by Dan Wallace is a solid, comprehensive grammar and syntax guide.

    It's Still Greek to Me by David Black has more straightforward explanation of syntax, so don't get it if you need more detail than overview. It works well in tandem with the Wallace text.

    A Greek Grammar of the New Testament and other early Christian Literature by Blass, Debrunner, and Funk is also a good grammar to consult, although it is a bit older. It goes well with the BDAG lexicon.

    Speaking of Lexicons...you can't go wrong with the BDAG. It is expensive ($150), but it is the best you will find on the market. Amazon.com: A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, 3rd Edition (9780226039336): Walter Bauer, Frederick William Danker: Books

    Liddell and Scott's lexicon is also good for Greek, but it is much more comprehensive than the BDAG by including a lot of Greek literature. The BDAG is more helpful, IMO, for translating NT Greek because it focuses on the NT and Christian literature primarily, although the scholarship reflects awareness of other Greek usages.

    If you are interested in older grammars, Robertson's grammar is helpful http://www.amazon.com/Grammar-Greek-.../dp/0805413081 He does employ an eight-case understanding of Greek instead of a five-case understanding, so you would need to be prepared to handle references to ablatives (under genitive in five case) along with locatives and instrumentals (included in dative in five case).
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    Great! Thank you. Wallace is follow up to Mounce, isn't it? Thanks for the help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJ View Post
    Great! Thank you. Wallace is follow up to Mounce, isn't it? Thanks for the help!
    Yes, it is.

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    I found a second edition lexicon for $20 something. Is the third really worth 130 more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJ View Post
    I found a second edition lexicon for $20 something. Is the third really worth 130 more?
    Probably not. I'd take the 2nd edition for 20.

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    I'm going to order the Greek NT readers edition. Trying to get into the text. I'm at chapters 17-18 in Mounce and doing well with vocab but its not enough. I'm thinking about one of the reader lexicons too. thoughts?
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    Ok, I've finished first semester of mounce. I've bought the UBS 4th Ed and a Readers NT Greek. I also picked up the readers lexicon which contains a verse by verse BAGD definition of all the words that occur 50 times or less! No flipping back and forth for rare words! Love it!
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    Just bought flashcard app on my iPad.
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    Ok, I need a little help. I just received notice from SAQA that I need to send certified copies of my awards. I was under the assumption that the certified Letters of Enrolment and Completion was sufficient. Do I simply need to take down my degrees, remove the frames, copy, get them notarized, then mail them in? I knew to expect some frustration
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    Just finished Greek 2. Really enjoyed the past seven weeks taking Greek at my seminary. Looking into Greek 3 for the Fall.
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    Congrats, Doc!

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    Thank you. Now that I've refreshed (13 years since college Greek), I'm ready for 3. Hopefully!
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    Greek 3 didn't make as a class at my seminary. may audit a book study in Greek. romans.....same prof that was scheduled to teach Grk 3 is teaching Romans
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