Online Doctoral degrees w/ strings attached, can you help?

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  1. nvygunz

    nvygunz New Member

    I am looking for an online doctoral degree, particularly in education, but doesn't have to be, management would be ok too. My specific issues or requests are below if you can help.

    1. No GRE or GMAT, I have a 3.9 BS GPA and 3.8 MEd GPA. I don't want to take a test.
    2. Prefer little to no on-campus requirements. 1-2 short term visits ok.
    3. Tier 1 or 2 school, if feasible, or regionally accredited and ranked.
    4. More than 1 start time per yr.
    5. Hoping no required cohorts, in case I need a break for a deployment.

    I know these are kind of specific, but I am in the military and move often. I can't be bogged down in one location for a long time. I have been successful in DL education, so no worries there.

    My possible goals after the military are: professor, counselor or director at a college, instructional specialist, learning officer, senior manager, etc.. I was hoping a doctoral degree would help make me more creditable with all my military leadership & technical experience. I have reached the highest paygrade I can reach, so now it's all leadership experience till I decided to retire. I also have my military tuition benefits too, so why not use them now.

    I have worked in education within the military as the following: instructor (3 yrs), facilitator & course director (2 yrs), executive manager within a military training organization (2+yrs). I also hold a M.Ed which I earned while working in the military education field. I have not officially been published yet, but that is my goal for 2011.

    I am also seeking some tips to become an adjunct (online) professor too. Been striking out on that front. :( Not sure where to look, to be honest. I tried HigherEd Jobs but not many online gigs. Hoping a doctoral would help too, since it seems to be a requirement on many campuses.

    Thanks everyone, and apologize if this is a re-post of an older thread. today is my first day. Woo Hoo!!!

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    M.Ed ~ Northeastern University
    Grad Cert. Maritime Studies ~ University of Wollongong, AU
    B.S. Management ~ Excelsior College
    A.A.S. Electronic Studies ~ Thomas Edison University
     
  2. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Welcome to DegreeInfo

    Yet you want to go for a doctorate?

    BTW, your signature says "Thomas Edison University." I searched the internet and couldn't find such a school. I'm guessing it should be Thomas Edison State College?

    Also, I noticed that your BS is from Excelsior, yet your M.Ed is from Northeastern. That's good news, to see a fellow Exelsior alumnus get into a traditional graduate school!

    I hope you find what you are looking for.
     
  3. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Nova Southeastern University meets your requirement...it is Tier 2 school. Maybe the following schools: Capella, Northcentral, Walden, and TUI.
     
  4. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    I have no idea how it is done but I've met several people who earned their Ph.D. while serving in the military including two in meteorology from NPGS and one Physics from USAFA.
     
  5. nvygunz

    nvygunz New Member

    Thx, your right TESC, I was writing in a hurry. :) I also tried Ashford and Oklahoma when working on BS. I wanted to stay Oklahoma (loved them), but they wanted me to do language requirements. ugh! I never completed language in HS, got a waiver.

    Anyway, thx again.
     
  6. nvygunz

    nvygunz New Member

    I was thinking of staying w/ NEU as i got my M.Ed from there, anyone currently enrolled in the ED.d program? I put in an app, but have been waiting months for a nod. Any advice? THX all!
     
  7. nanoose

    nanoose New Member

    Nova...nice, but $$$.
     
  8. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    The DHS is only $300 a credit if that interests you.
     
  9. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Welcome to the forum. Look under Forums | Online & DL Teaching and take a look at "Good schools to get online adjunct positions-" and "Online Adjunct Jobs Website" That is a great place to start. You can also create a "standard" signature line that will appear on all posts. Click on "Settings" in the upper right corner, scroll down and you will see on the left "My Settings" section and under that is "Edit Signature".

    Hope that helps.
     
  10. Dr Rene

    Dr Rene Member

    There are some billets in the military (like scientist and engineers) that require a doctorate degree. For these positions, the military will send the officer to a civilian institution or NPS or AFIT for school and then a follow-on assignment to that scientist or engineering job.

    In addition, some billets in the military (like the Academies, NPS, or AFIT instructor duty) require a doctorate. For these positions, the military will send the officer to a civilian institution for school and then a follow-on assignment to teach.
     
  11. nvygunz

    nvygunz New Member

    Thank you for the replies thus far. Especially the tips "Randell1234"!

    Although most if you are correct in your replies of military doctoral degree requirements, I am unfortunately not in a field that require such services. :( I have to do it on my own.
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Hmm. He said, "Tier 1 or 2 school, if feasible, or regionally accredited and ranked." Nova Southeastern may meet that requirement, but all those other schools are unranked.

    He may be interested in the University of Memphis, which has a tier two graduate school of education that offers an EdD in Higher Education for about $25,000 that only requires one week per year on campus. That would be adequate for most of the positions he lists that he'd want, but I'm not sure how well positioned to become a college professor that will really make him. I gather you need to go to a tip top school to have a chance for that in Education these days.

    -=Steve=-
     
  13. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    And the vast majority of professorships in education are related to training K-12 teachers. Without K-12 experience, getting a position in education might be difficult. There are some higher-ed professorships, but they are few and far between compared to K-12 education professorships. The likely reason for this is that higher ed is generally a subject studied at the graduate or postgraduate level while K-12 is studied at all levels.
     
  14. warguns

    warguns Member

    Where are you quoting Tier 2 from? If it's US News, then perhaps you might indicate that Tier 2 is the bottom tier, meaning US News will not bother to rate it. Tier 2 doesn't sound bad, until you realize there are only two tiers.
     
  15. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    There used to be 4 tiers- maybe they are still thinking in terms of the four tier system. Also, there are plenty of schools that don't fall into either tier, whereas the school in question does, at least, fall into tier 2.

    Then there is the fact that there are different school "categories" and it is possible to be a Tier 1 school in one of those categories but still not make the main list of college rankings. For example: Columbia College - Best College - Education - US News A Tier 1 school, ranked 40th!!!! Oh wait, ranked 40th among Regional Universities in the Midwest.... yet it is still called a "tier 1" school. uhhh... yeah.
     
  16. warguns

    warguns Member

    Tier 2

    The only classification that matters for a doctorate is National Universities. There's no special honor in being in Tier 2; it simply means that the school awards a doctorate and its measured quality is below that of the 191 school in Tier 1.

    In Tier 1 are such terrific schools as South Carolina State University, Immaculata University, University of Hartford, University of La Verne, and Andrews University.

    The original poster's stated "(m)y possible goals after the military are: professor, counselor or director at a college". What are his chances with a doctorate from an unranked school? Of course there are some with NSU doctorates who got teaching jobs but wouldn't the poster be better served with a degree from one of the 191 ranked schools?
     
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

  18. warguns

    warguns Member

    Tiers

    For instance, we were regularly asked both by readers and those at some higher eduction institutions whether the Universities-Master's category represented rankings of master degree programs at any of the schools. The rankings were not of any master's program at any of the schools.​

    Methodology: Ranking Category Definitions - US News and World Report

    In short, the US News evaluation is of undergraduate education, not graduate education. It is grouped into categories based upon the highest degree awarded.
     
  19. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    I thought Tier 4 was the bottom tier.
     
  20. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    I believe it goes even lower than Tier 4. Take a look at Excelsior College = unranked.
     

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