Aspen to offer other Doctorate degrees soon!

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  1. bweston

    bweston New Member

    Taken from an Aspen posting by Rachel Caskey on LinkedIn, confirmed by me with Dr. Lady:

    "We actually have two Doctorate programs that are being reviewed by our accrediting body: a Doctorate of Business Administration and a Doctorate of Science in Technical Engineering. Pending approval, our goal is to try to make these two new Doctorate programs available around the end of this year."
     
  2. cravenco

    cravenco New Member

    Sounds good. DBA's are growing, and growing, and growing, and growing...

    WAIT!!!! Will not everyone and their cousin have a DBA by 2020?
     
  3. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    This is a very good news coming from Aspen. On Friday, in another thread, I opined that Aspen will soon take over the DETC DL market due to the now standardized $100 per credit tuition, as well as, if they drastically increase their program offering to match what other DETC schools are offering. Today, we get this very good news. I'm so ready to enroll in the doctorate (hopefully, its a Doctor of Science) in technical engineering. What a fantastic way to bag two titles: Dr. and/or Engineer. I'm sure many who enrolled in the EdD program will switch to either the DSc. or DBA once offered. I love Aspen.
     
  4. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    Looks like DBAs and DMs (doctor of management) will soon become the MBAs of the next century. After that, if terrorists keep blowing stuff up, then security administration (combination of physical security and information security/assurance, as well as criminal justice, business, intelligence studies, management, homeland security, emergency and disaster management, legal studies, etc. - a cross-discipline professional degree, if you will) will be the next practitioner degree that employers and governments will seek.

    Just like the BBA, MBA, and DBA, the security practitioner degree, which will cut across various disciplines as in business administration, will emerge at the undergrad level through doctoral level scholarship with equivalent BSA (Bachelor of Security Administration), MSA (Master of Security Administration), and DSA (Doctor of Security Administration). Maybe Aspen will lead the way in starting this new true security practitioner degree in the future.
     
  5. MSwol

    MSwol New Member

    Now they just need to get RA. If they had that, they could double their new prices and I would enroll tomorrow.
     
  6. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    RA would be nice. However, since that is not happening anytime soon, alot of folks enrolled at Aspen are using their degree to "pad" their credentials/qualifications for industry and government jobs. Although, I've seen folks with degrees from DETC schools in the faculty listings of DeVry University, Keiser University, Capitol College, Capella University etc., it would seem they all used their RA master's to get their foot in the door, and then acquired the DETC degree to "pad" their qualifications, maybe. Also, what many in the IT arena are doing is to "pad" their DETC degrees with certifications. A combination of the right certifications with some RA/DETC degrees could open just as many industry doors, in my opinion. At Aspen's tuition, it would be hard to say the ROI on that degree won't be high.
     
  7. geoffs

    geoffs Member

    On a lark, I enrolled in one of the Doctorate courses for the Technology program just to take a look see, (their moodle had a few openings) and as my undergrad was Artificial Intelligence I was interested.

    It was mostly a reading reflection course that you would expected at that level: READ this write 80,000 words on it.

    While many might flock to this, personally I don't have the time or money: even at $100/credit hour.
     
  8. MISin08

    MISin08 New Member

    OK, so much for "No, no doctorate -- a master's is plenty"

    Phillip
     
  9. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    One of the major markets for online degrees are K-12, community college and university facult who are already employed based on their masters degree and who seek a DL doctorate from Capella, Walden, etc., for promotion. If NA degrees from Aspen, Cal Coast & Columbia Southern become accepted for promotion & tenure of faculty at RA institutions, I believe that these institutions will see enrollment spikes.
     
  10. bweston

    bweston New Member

    The DSc is appealing, at least in concept. Anxious to see where this goes.
     
  11. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    Very much so. While the degree may be borne out of Aspen's IT students (both present and past) interests, conceptually, it would provide a terminal path for those seeking to end their IT studies with a doctoral degree. I also know there is huge demand for IT-related degrees from folks in developing countries, especially, programs from American universities. I have a feeling this degree will be very popular for folks who can't come to the U.S to study as well as those who can't afford the high-tuition DL programs. I think introducing a D.Sc. in Technology Engineering is a smart move on Aspen's part. Folks not seeking expensive doctoral IT programs, and as well as those not looking for academic (teaching) careers in the U.S. will benefit immensely from it. This is the program Dean's page.
     
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  12. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    Any word on the inception of this degree? Eagerly awaiting to see the course content...
     
  13. dcullen

    dcullen New Member

    Can't wait to hear more about the new Doctorates! I just applied to the Ed.D. program (emphasis in Ed Tech) yesterday, but was looking at Doctor in Computer Science degrees with emphasis in emerging tech beforehand. Wouldn't it be great if Aspen is thinking along these lines as well? I'm so excited!
     
  14. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Wow, that's not close to the complete story as I see it... Here you go: online RA doctorates are rarely (if at all) being accepted for promotion and tenure at RA institutions; moreover, the graduation rate is about 1 in 10 (1 in 20?) of online doctoral students who enroll. That makes the online RA doctoral path a poor investment of time and money.

    Now comes the NA doctorate... from schools with a history of trying to produce graduates. Let's say that 1 in 2 NA doctoral students do the work and graduate with their degrees. That's the whole point, right? Graduate your students?! (Not just relieve them of their cash and pretend that you are smarter than they are?)

    In the final analysis, the NA degree probably will have just as as much acceptance as online RA doctorates, making the NA doctorate a far better value for the money.
     
  15. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Do you mean acceptance in the corporate world or in the acedemic world?
     
  16. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    Welcome to the 21st Century!

    Where the doctorate degree is the "new" masters degree. :sgrin:
     
  17. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    I am friends with two faculty members from a good RA university that recently started offering doctorates. During their planning/approval process they paid tuition fo faculty with tenure but without doctorates to attend NCU or Capella to earn doctorates. Probably this is a rare event.
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Perhaps not. That's what Dakota State University did. When I looked at them a few years ago when they started offering a distance doctoral program in Information Systems, they had two faculty members with doctorates from Capella and two more in the process of earning them from there.

    -=Steve=-
     
  19. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    This goes to show that just because folks find degrees from the Capellas, the NCUs and TUIs in the faculty listing of B & M schools, they can't necessarily use that as a rationale for taking out $50k student loans to attend these online schools with hopes of landing academic jobs at B & M schools. Again, just because others are attending DL doctorates at these expensive internet schools doesn't mean some of us should even attempt to go there using student loans.
     
  20. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I could not imagine people would use that logic but I am surprised all the time.
     

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