Are their any current AMU/APU students who plan to go traditional graduate schools?

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  1. tito8499

    tito8499 New Member

    I'm curious to know if any of you know of, or plan on using your American Public University/American Military University degrees to apply into traditional, on-campus universities for graduate school(s)?

    I've already inquired with one brick-n-mortar school for their Master's program in International Relations and they unwillingly accept Online degrees from Online Universities. :confused:
     
  2. cravenco

    cravenco New Member

    I am a former student of AMU. I do not know why a B and M would not take their degree work. But I do know of many in APUS who have gone to B and M schools with no problem, Temple and Penn. State to be exact.
     
  3. tito8499

    tito8499 New Member

  4. cravenco

    cravenco New Member

    This is not good. The University of San Diego should be ashamed of themselves.
     
  5. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

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  6. cravenco

    cravenco New Member

    No, they will not accept you if you went to another online university.
     
  7. tito8499

    tito8499 New Member

    Who else knows about alumni who are currently enrolled or attended traditional on-campus universities using their AMU/APU degrees?

    If you want plan on going to one, please share the schools you're interested and what you graduate programs you desire to pursue?

    If you want to go to law school, please share the school you want to attend. I'd love to hear from APU/AMU alumni & current students.
     
  8. cravenco

    cravenco New Member

    Check out their student forum as well. I think I remember seeing this in some threads posted there. You will have to do a search though.
     
  9. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    I used a B&M Bachelors degree and a B&M Masters degree to get into AMU's graduate program. :notworthy:

    It would be highly unorthodox for San Diego University to not accept an AMU Bachelors degree towards their graduate program, unless they have too many applicants for available student body positions. All other things being equal, as long as your undergraduate degree is RA, you're good-to-go.

    If your AMU Bachelors degree was awarded prior to AMU achieving regional accreditation, then that could present a problem. AMU didn't achieve regional accreditation until 2006.
     
  10. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    USD is a Christian University. Sometimes people confuse it with the two state system universities CSUSD or UCSD in San Diego.
     
  11. tito8499

    tito8499 New Member

    I know its a private, catholic university. But, I already spoke with them and they said they don't accept On-line Universities.
     
  12. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    I think this is very common with state universities (public non-profits). Although they may not announce that they won't accept degrees earned from online-only schools, most, if not all of them do in fact reject admitting graduates from online schools. I recently was refused admission into Dakota State University (DSU) information systems doctorate because, in my opinion, I presented an IT Management master degree (with 4.0 GPA) from a RA online-only school. While they do admit those with bachelor's degree only into the program, I think the fact that my BS degree (3.89 GPA) was from a for-profit school probably didn't sit well with them as well. My rejection letter stated that they do not have enough staff to supervise research activities in the program, I know of a friend who got admitted into the IS doctorate at DSU with non-IT degrees.

    Bottom line, when you get degrees from online-only schools, it would seem as though you are forced to continue on with advanced degrees from internet-only schools. That means if you are planning on getting a doctorate or master's degree from a traditional public university, make sure you stay away from internet-only schools in addition to avoiding private for-profits as much as you can. Degrees from those entities are not taken seriously yet in academia, and it is important not to pour money and time into a degree that is limited in utility, or "worthless," if you will. I've learned my lessons, and I'm glad my master's didn't cost much. Now, i'm exploring a second master degree from a B & M school because I refuse to be "forced" to continue with a doctorate from another "internet-only" school. I don't want to get a doctorate that I cannot use. Neither do I want to get a doctorate that I have to hide sometimes because of the negative image "internet degrees" still have.

    FYI: Many folks in this forum have doctorates from internet-only schools. But many of them choose to not display them on their signature line like others with such degrees from prestigious B & M schools. It won't be surprising to know why their doctorates, which we all know is huge academic accomplishment, has to be hidden...
     
  13. tito8499

    tito8499 New Member

    I'm sorry to hear about your rejection. I believe it all depends on the school and how faculty take on it, because a former AMU students graduated with a BA in International Relations and went on to HARVARD for her MA in Government from the Kennedy school of Government. Another alumnus got accepted into the Doctorate program of Psychology at Widener University. I guess it's a "shoot-n-miss" situation.
     
  14. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    My 100% online regionally accredited doctoral degree isn't in my signature line for purposes of anonymity. The less information that is provided means that anonymity is more likely to remain possible. For the same reason, my prestigious B&M Masters degree isn't listed either.

    However, if I get another Masters degree from AMU, it will proudly be listed in my signature line!:dance:
     
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  15. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    I agree. Not all hidden degrees from signature lines are due to image issues related to internet-only degrees. I got that from reading a thread in this forum, where a member said he does not use/list his master's degree (from NCU) anymore to avoid it tainting his B & M master's and soon to be completed doctorate from B & M schools.

    Regarding using online degrees to apply for graduate admission at B & M schools, there is a theory that sometimes, listing lower level degrees from B & M schools only, as a basis for applying, can actually help one's chances of being admitted. I am a fan of DL regardless of whether the school is B & M or online-only. However, degrees from online-only schools are not totally accepted yet, and those getting involved with it better become aware of the reality of their investment.

    There are many threads in this forum that delineates the extent to which professors from B & M schools are succeeding in discouraging major employers from hiring applicants with degrees from internet-only schools. Very sad that they are succeeding.
     
  16. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    The listing of degrees should be based on what the person desires to obtain. If one is applying for an entry-level management position at McDonalds, then listing a Bachelors degree in business management seems appropriate, while it would be wise to omit a Masters in Criminal Justice and a Doctorate in Planetary Sciences. The listing of degrees should have a targeted impact on a specific audience.
     
  17. HikaruBr

    HikaruBr Member

    It doesn't really work like that. Almost all B&M schools ask for you to declare ALL schools attended - and it's considered an academic misconduct to hide any degree earned. You could even lose your degree if they find out after you graduated.
     
  18. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    I know this answer is not to the original question, but I have seen numerous students come through my classes at AMU/APU with graduate and even terminal degrees from top-tier institutions. I teach primarily in the emergency management program - AMU/APU has an outstanding reputation in the field among practitioners.
     
  19. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    The original statement is applicable for applying to a business and not to an academic institution. FYI
     
  20. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Both CSUDH (a state school) and ERAU (a private NFP school) accepted my Excelsior degree (although at that time it was USNY) for entry into their grad programs.
     

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